1 00:00:06,289 --> 00:00:03,970 primitive okay I'm but I'm gonna go to 2 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:06,299 health for medicines 3 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:08,550 yeah so I've been operating off my 4 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:13,590 Facebook and now I'm gonna go to all 5 00:00:24,380 --> 00:00:17,840 right okay so I'm gonna go to YouTube 6 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:24,390 why I want to show you to you enter what 7 00:00:31,939 --> 00:00:29,689 I want to do is show you a in a second 8 00:00:33,410 --> 00:00:31,949 go through all that incident the 9 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:33,420 incident which we've kind of covered 10 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:36,750 lightly and listen to talking heads us 11 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:41,550 real hard the next within our failure 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:43,559 analysis those events happening before 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:44,850 we're on debrief 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:49,890 I I was ill back in our dorm that 15 00:00:54,740 --> 00:00:52,050 morning this is just hours after the 16 00:00:57,380 --> 00:00:54,750 Rendlesham forest incident guys in the 17 00:00:59,299 --> 00:00:57,390 back cuz they're kind of new in and I 18 00:01:01,490 --> 00:00:59,309 didn't feel well I felt metallic taste 19 00:01:03,979 --> 00:01:01,500 in my mouth my eyes or water perfuse Lee 20 00:01:06,170 --> 00:01:03,989 so I already had it effects of look we 21 00:01:10,609 --> 00:01:06,180 have been exposed to not just me 22 00:01:12,649 --> 00:01:10,619 everyone by the way I went over I met 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:12,659 Greg bathroom another witness to this 24 00:01:19,999 --> 00:01:17,130 and we had I went to the chow hall the 25 00:01:22,219 --> 00:01:20,009 mess hall and I sat down at the police 26 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:22,229 table and we had a long table with a gun 27 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:25,080 rack and I had changed I wasn't a 28 00:01:29,149 --> 00:01:26,880 uniform now and so while the other 29 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:29,159 witnesses across roommate and he said to 30 00:01:34,039 --> 00:01:31,369 me what the f just happened to us and 31 00:01:36,410 --> 00:01:34,049 Jim Penniston was at the end of the 32 00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:36,420 table who wasn't involved in fact he was 33 00:01:40,399 --> 00:01:38,100 involved night one but claims he wasn't 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:40,409 on baseless day he was he was at the end 35 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:42,570 of table and said I started talking to 36 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:44,070 him and then Penniston looked at me and 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:47,340 said Warren shut the F up and he 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:49,170 verified that five years ago right the 39 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:50,250 front of other people with I said 40 00:01:52,999 --> 00:01:51,600 remember that thing he goes well I was 41 00:01:57,069 --> 00:01:53,009 just looking out for you and I go stop 42 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:57,079 looking out for me Jim a nefarious 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:00,960 relationship I have with Jim but uh so 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:03,090 that happened so I got pissed off and I 45 00:02:08,809 --> 00:02:05,490 told Greg I said listen I'm calling my 46 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:08,819 mother 19 went guys right we're all 47 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:11,550 Mama's boys one way or another 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:13,440 my mother for five hours ahead of New 49 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:18,810 York time I went we in a phone that you 50 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:20,880 could get a free call but I know they're 51 00:02:25,550 --> 00:02:23,190 monitored right nothing that happened 52 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:25,560 that was it was sunny morning sunny out 53 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:28,560 I went to the base phone box which you 54 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:30,750 see depicted in that show accepted with 55 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,540 the Sun was out and the public saw near 56 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:35,280 the red phone box and I reversed the 57 00:02:40,370 --> 00:02:37,140 charges to New York to call my mother 58 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:40,380 rank standing outside the door and I see 59 00:02:44,510 --> 00:02:42,870 she answers and she goes hello and I 60 00:02:46,430 --> 00:02:44,520 said I said to her bye you won't believe 61 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:46,440 what happened a UFO landed near the base 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:48,420 and blah blah but I keep and you know 63 00:02:53,450 --> 00:02:50,090 say you know she's not answering 64 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:53,460 she wasn't there so I called the 65 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:55,860 operator this is 1980 mind you and 66 00:03:00,050 --> 00:02:58,170 things are primitive I call her and I 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:00,060 say listen I've been cut off she does 68 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:01,770 are you calling from the base and I said 69 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:03,120 yes she does you were cut off from the 70 00:03:09,590 --> 00:03:06,480 base and hung up and I looked at Greg I 71 00:03:12,350 --> 00:03:09,600 said I'm screwed don't forget it went 72 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:12,360 back to the door well I was screwed long 73 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:13,920 story short and this is all covered and 74 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:15,300 left at he skate in the book that I 75 00:03:20,930 --> 00:03:19,110 co-authored with Peter Robbins it's all 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:20,940 covered right so I could skip that I 77 00:03:24,650 --> 00:03:22,530 forget I should write a book should not 78 00:03:26,090 --> 00:03:24,660 you I think I tell them there are you 79 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:26,100 gonna get your story I ever thought of 80 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:29,400 doing a radio show consider it maybe one 81 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:32,450 day I'll do a book I don't know and 82 00:03:39,699 --> 00:03:36,720 funny world and so I identified myself 83 00:03:41,780 --> 00:03:39,709 is it a definite problem instantly 84 00:03:44,750 --> 00:03:41,790 because that's just how I roll 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:44,760 and I went back to the dorm I was still 86 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:49,530 ill and by 11 a.m. I got I was we had 87 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:51,330 his phone downstairs in the day room 88 00:03:54,979 --> 00:03:53,160 where I loved in the second floor guy 89 00:03:59,600 --> 00:03:54,989 ran up aren't got a phone call ran down 90 00:04:02,180 --> 00:03:59,610 got a voice from operations and this is 91 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:02,190 wing operations he gives rough 92 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,040 you're off and I'm thinking I'm not 93 00:04:10,190 --> 00:04:07,500 surprised and then they said meet at 94 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:10,200 this law enforcement desk which was not 95 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:12,360 a secret underground alien base it was a 96 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:14,760 little Quonset hut thing where our chief 97 00:04:20,930 --> 00:04:17,430 Malcolm Ziegler was so when I got there 98 00:04:23,290 --> 00:04:20,940 my group was all the same rank airman 99 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:23,300 third senior airman down to airman 100 00:04:29,649 --> 00:04:26,289 as amethyst last to strike we get there 101 00:04:32,110 --> 00:04:29,659 and we got geiger counters to offer us 102 00:04:35,439 --> 00:04:32,120 by these guys I didn't know we go into 103 00:04:37,629 --> 00:04:35,449 the room on the on the law enforcement 104 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:37,639 desk that was empty there was no one 105 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:39,199 even in there in the jail they had 106 00:04:46,089 --> 00:04:43,280 couple cells for the Ellie's and on that 107 00:04:47,499 --> 00:04:46,099 desk were documents stacked that was 108 00:04:50,529 --> 00:04:47,509 never brought to Colonel Hall 109 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:50,539 never almost documents they were all 110 00:04:58,540 --> 00:04:54,650 pre-typed pre written statements saying 111 00:04:59,050 --> 00:04:58,550 we were off-duty and saw lights in the 112 00:05:02,379 --> 00:04:59,060 trees 113 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:02,389 I said well someone next to me said 114 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:03,710 wonderfully don't sign them and they go 115 00:05:08,499 --> 00:05:05,690 you can sign them our first shirt at 116 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:08,509 least swings in seinem signed them all 117 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:10,460 this we had a sign down all these things 118 00:05:15,939 --> 00:05:12,680 we couldn't read into the office we went 119 00:05:18,459 --> 00:05:15,949 we sat on a couple rows of chairs and I 120 00:05:20,890 --> 00:05:18,469 can't recount this in the book I was 121 00:05:23,619 --> 00:05:20,900 debriefed not by Air Force and my and my 122 00:05:25,719 --> 00:05:23,629 brothers we were debriefed by Office of 123 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:25,729 Naval Intelligence and then guy was 124 00:05:29,409 --> 00:05:26,990 named Richardson and has been 125 00:05:32,170 --> 00:05:29,419 established now was the head of Naval 126 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:32,180 Intelligence out of London with our 127 00:05:36,309 --> 00:05:34,250 forces security services guys in that 128 00:05:37,059 --> 00:05:36,319 room which apart of the NSA we didn't 129 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:37,069 know that then 130 00:05:42,219 --> 00:05:40,060 suits not men and black guys in suits 131 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:42,229 but they're a whole bunch things there 132 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:43,340 they showed us a film 133 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:45,650 I'm narrated they did I've met other 134 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:49,310 people have seen that they told us that 135 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:52,400 what we saw was off earth technical 136 00:05:59,649 --> 00:05:55,849 technology off off earth something I 137 00:06:02,529 --> 00:05:59,659 forget the word and these are the 138 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:02,539 reasons for classification secrecy and 139 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:05,449 this is a long history and the you know 140 00:06:10,779 --> 00:06:08,240 you it was all true the flag and all 141 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:10,789 that hadn't started remember we're young 142 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:12,889 guys our lives have already been 143 00:06:16,749 --> 00:06:14,990 derailed in the last few hours imagine 144 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:16,759 the guys that didn't know about this 145 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:18,710 phenomena well some didn't and thought 146 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:22,580 it was the devil Baptists that's the guy 147 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:26,310 to it that mr. Hall said never did 148 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:28,110 imagine how many oh we had the highest 149 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:30,210 suicide rate in NATO on our base but 150 00:06:34,730 --> 00:06:32,520 it's a lot of R&D that went on there 151 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:34,740 research and development all kinds of 152 00:06:43,130 --> 00:06:40,050 things historically always did so we 153 00:06:44,210 --> 00:06:43,140 went through all that were released that 154 00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:44,220 night 155 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:48,360 I myself sergeant the stems a met some 156 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:50,640 other people went through this and long 157 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:52,080 story short it's covered in there were 158 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:53,970 hit with an exotic toxin near the 159 00:06:58,820 --> 00:06:55,770 construction we went out to meet a car 160 00:07:01,340 --> 00:06:58,830 these guy came in from my wing and I 161 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,350 just heard and literally I could see 162 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:03,120 everything I could hear everything I 163 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:05,730 couldn't see never had my eyes water so 164 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:08,130 much my nose I couldn't breathe I was 165 00:07:12,860 --> 00:07:10,530 thumped and put into the back I knew the 166 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:12,870 wheel well was there I knew the stins 167 00:07:16,220 --> 00:07:14,850 that was there I could knew that he's 168 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:16,230 fighting I'm fighting but they're 169 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:17,550 literally I think we're getting stopped 170 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:20,220 in it was darkened they got us it's a 171 00:07:25,970 --> 00:07:23,450 long story we were taking somewhere now 172 00:07:30,290 --> 00:07:25,980 this is when you get into the MK stuff 173 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:30,300 we for sure this the halt Colonel Hall 174 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:31,710 I'm saying some things you people might 175 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,300 not be familiar with and that's not your 176 00:07:39,050 --> 00:07:36,720 fault it's 35 years of a [\h__\h] but at the 177 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:39,060 end of the day the tank that halt 178 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:41,070 desired and Leslie Kean helped acquire 179 00:07:47,260 --> 00:07:43,710 was when I asked Budd Hopkins the great 180 00:07:49,820 --> 00:07:47,270 deceased researcher I want to explore 181 00:07:53,870 --> 00:07:49,830 1995 I want to explore what happened to 182 00:07:55,820 --> 00:07:53,880 me after and this is what came out it 183 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:55,830 was a very clinical thing wing 184 00:08:01,820 --> 00:07:59,490 intelligence is semi-subterranean not an 185 00:08:03,770 --> 00:08:01,830 alien base but a scenario was put in 186 00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:03,780 some of us where there's potentially 187 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:06,060 science fiction scenario about 10 188 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:08,910 minutes of recall but what came out in 189 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:12,690 the tape is that we were given that what 190 00:08:18,470 --> 00:08:14,670 was put into us with crash Lewis not 191 00:08:20,450 --> 00:08:18,480 sodium pentathol with sodium amytal and 192 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:20,460 if he's studying what sodium amytal does 193 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:22,289 it's a mind control drug 194 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:26,099 caetera and i named four people on that 195 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:30,449 tape we kept it quiet and through a 196 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:32,849 bunch of really nefarious best it's 197 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:35,849 involved in this thing my old deputy 198 00:08:40,069 --> 00:08:38,070 base commander got a hold of this tape 199 00:08:42,139 --> 00:08:40,079 and has those four names we didn't 200 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:42,149 publish them because this all happened 201 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:43,800 long before the book we didn't publish 202 00:08:51,170 --> 00:08:46,310 them to protect those innocent parties 203 00:08:52,939 --> 00:08:51,180 because they may not have known dark 204 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:52,949 things things I wouldn't do I'm glad my 205 00:08:58,370 --> 00:08:55,290 conscience is clean on all this 206 00:09:01,280 --> 00:08:58,380 long story short really [\h__\h] up things 207 00:09:03,769 --> 00:09:01,290 happen to us after that things were not 208 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:03,779 safe remember the movie marathon man 209 00:09:09,199 --> 00:09:06,440 isn't safe it goddamn was not safe 210 00:09:11,540 --> 00:09:09,209 people were who they said they were we 211 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:11,550 had teams flying into that base we had 212 00:09:16,910 --> 00:09:13,730 aircraft I wrote a letter 213 00:09:21,009 --> 00:09:16,920 the famous vault memo which I would be 214 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:21,019 the one to actually get out in 1983 215 00:09:25,879 --> 00:09:23,790 within days of this event and Colonel 216 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:25,889 halt wrote a memo unexplained lights and 217 00:09:29,809 --> 00:09:27,839 indicate it's a historic document I come 218 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:29,819 along to help get it out like hates me 219 00:09:35,059 --> 00:09:32,970 basically because his names on it and I 220 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:35,069 wrote him I wrote a letter to my mother 221 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:38,970 on the 6th of January and I wrote it to 222 00:09:42,769 --> 00:09:41,310 her and it's 8 pages of dynamite now 223 00:09:45,170 --> 00:09:42,779 you'd say why isn't that the book well 224 00:09:48,259 --> 00:09:45,180 it's mentioned but and my mother's 225 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:48,269 response is mentioned but we were alone 226 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:49,860 in this there was no internet we knew 227 00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:53,010 there was too much to do until it took 228 00:09:58,129 --> 00:09:55,740 Gary Heseltine annex CID copies ago this 229 00:10:01,400 --> 00:09:58,139 is a historic document my letter is the 230 00:10:04,610 --> 00:10:01,410 only authentic original account of these 231 00:10:07,129 --> 00:10:04,620 events not copies that predates the Hult 232 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:07,139 memo by the way Jim Tennyson's notebook 233 00:10:10,699 --> 00:10:08,910 has been altered and changed even to 234 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:10,709 confess so that would not be accepted in 235 00:10:14,809 --> 00:10:13,230 the courtroom now the ones and zeros 236 00:10:17,179 --> 00:10:14,819 they weren't there now they're there 237 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:17,189 that's his problem that would not be 238 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:19,290 accepted now I move this to the back of 239 00:10:24,259 --> 00:10:20,970 court would not make look at that and 240 00:10:26,059 --> 00:10:24,269 touch a bird with my letter thank God my 241 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:26,069 mother saved it even her bookkeeping is 242 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:29,370 on the back is I basically try to 243 00:10:32,010 --> 00:10:30,190 explain what 244 00:10:34,950 --> 00:10:32,020 and mask it in another letter this 245 00:10:38,190 --> 00:10:34,960 historical thing I nailed it on the 7th 246 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:38,200 of January it talks about teams coming 247 00:10:42,810 --> 00:10:40,930 in I said ikat the end I said I can't 248 00:10:44,430 --> 00:10:42,820 tell you the whole thing and in the mail 249 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:44,440 they read it I'll tell you when I get 250 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:46,960 home and I was thinking if I got caught 251 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:48,970 mailing this I'm dead it got through 252 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:53,200 Paul writes his memo a week later which 253 00:10:56,580 --> 00:10:54,730 almost looks like he took it out of my 254 00:11:00,090 --> 00:10:56,590 letter it's that clear if you read the 255 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:00,100 real ones nothing put out get postmarks 256 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:02,380 everything Bob Salas X US Air Force 257 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:04,510 captain because that's exactly APO was 258 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:08,890 exact that's the letter two days after 259 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:11,260 halts three days after halt write this 260 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:13,210 memo my mother responds talking about 261 00:11:18,930 --> 00:11:15,930 the hostages being released and from 262 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:18,940 Iran I was involved in that on the tty 263 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:22,900 in Germany and what she writes is that 264 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:25,690 all this stuff and not realizing the 265 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:28,060 scope of what went on well Larry you 266 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:30,100 certainly explained your situation with 267 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:32,710 the UFO and as you know what you another 268 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:35,230 saw was just that a UFO it must have 269 00:11:41,070 --> 00:11:37,150 been quite an experience then she goes 270 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:41,080 on so here's a trail of custody burying 271 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:43,090 anything to do with lighthouses or I 272 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:45,760 heard something I didn't sit down a 273 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:49,420 surgeon purse tins until April we 274 00:11:53,790 --> 00:11:50,890 weren't allowed to talk to each other 275 00:11:56,070 --> 00:11:53,800 none of us and best Inza sought me out 276 00:11:58,140 --> 00:11:56,080 yep nope came under my door from his 277 00:12:00,210 --> 00:11:58,150 girlfriend Cindy Charles which I gave to 278 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:00,220 Georgina Bern I still had it not never 279 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:03,360 seen it since government to Seoul but uh 280 00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:06,010 the elimin Lauren of Lawson very 281 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:08,620 valuable thank God for my mother saving 282 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:10,540 this stuff and I saved them kind of a 283 00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:14,050 packrat and anyway long story short I 284 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:15,790 left the Air Force fully honorable 285 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:18,070 breach a contract I had help though it 286 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:20,080 wasn't dealing the job they had me on I 287 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:21,910 was still security police but I was in 288 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:24,790 the back of it operations they are on me 289 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:26,589 all the time and my door kicked open 290 00:12:29,820 --> 00:12:28,390 drug dogs coming through I'm saying 291 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:29,830 they're gonna plant they were doing it 292 00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:31,660 to a few guys they're gonna plant me 293 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:34,750 they're gonna put something they dentist 294 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:36,730 evil of the plume that you know there 295 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:37,800 was all kind of ugly 296 00:12:44,329 --> 00:12:41,610 snitching going on and so I said I'm out 297 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:44,339 but I'll come back in just out of the 298 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:47,750 space was there a name so I got out and 299 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:50,310 fully honorable discharge breach of 300 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:52,890 contract I came out with a code that 301 00:12:56,569 --> 00:12:55,410 does not exist on the books it me it's a 302 00:12:58,460 --> 00:12:56,579 classified code 303 00:13:00,470 --> 00:12:58,470 I think mr. Holt did say my medical 304 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:00,480 records are classified did me well 305 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:02,250 you're not involved in some why would 306 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:03,930 they good yeah I'll forget about it 307 00:13:09,019 --> 00:13:07,320 that's up to you folks but uh and he 308 00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:09,029 said everything's locked down with me I 309 00:13:13,550 --> 00:13:10,860 think he thinks I'm a spook that's what 310 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:13,560 he thinks but a spy sorry can't say that 311 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:14,610 let's country things 312 00:13:20,180 --> 00:13:18,630 believe me it can't but uh okay that's 313 00:13:23,090 --> 00:13:20,190 what people think I went through that I 314 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:23,100 came back to the states I saw the 315 00:13:28,699 --> 00:13:26,250 surgeon pass tenza in his world and his 316 00:13:30,889 --> 00:13:28,709 dorm room and I said we got to get this 317 00:13:33,319 --> 00:13:30,899 out we had had a loss of life already we 318 00:13:38,090 --> 00:13:33,329 knew about that was my motivation folks 319 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:38,100 by the way revenge because of that that 320 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:40,290 was my motivator not revenge and also 321 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:42,540 that screw this this is real that this 322 00:13:49,819 --> 00:13:47,130 is as real as the movies come home I was 323 00:13:51,949 --> 00:13:49,829 not right I can remember call two days 324 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:51,959 my sister picks up the phone the kitchen 325 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:53,760 she goes there's someone on the phone 326 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:56,370 listen and there was a tap on her phone 327 00:13:59,660 --> 00:13:58,170 in front of my work for New York 328 00:14:02,030 --> 00:13:59,670 telephone at the time as it did come I 329 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:02,040 was it my drummer old drummer I said you 330 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:03,570 can come by and listen this son at some 331 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:06,120 time and he came the next day because it 332 00:14:09,319 --> 00:14:07,440 would happen the same time you hear 333 00:14:11,449 --> 00:14:09,329 people offer something going on 334 00:14:13,010 --> 00:14:11,459 nito she got a tap on here it's a third 335 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,020 party on your thing they don't know 336 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:15,120 you're hearing them so that was the 337 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:18,930 beginning long story short I wasn't the 338 00:14:24,010 --> 00:14:20,959 best of people it's all in the book 339 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:24,020 there's no saintly Hood in that thing 340 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:28,110 but you know I drink you know - what 341 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:30,660 post-traumatic stress does to people it 342 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:32,370 was a totally different person 343 00:14:39,650 --> 00:14:37,620 not a nice person and I just didn't 344 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:39,660 relate to the world I didn't recognize 345 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:42,089 anything I didn't know how to live in it 346 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:46,860 at all and so well it's all covered in 347 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:50,029 there so long story short I one day in 348 00:14:54,650 --> 00:14:52,860 1982 how did you get public someone 349 00:14:56,869 --> 00:14:54,660 interviewed me recently I said so when 350 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:56,879 you went to the press I go I didn't go 351 00:15:01,730 --> 00:14:57,839 to the press 352 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:01,740 life is funny I have a tooth removed in 353 00:15:07,129 --> 00:15:04,860 Connecticut living at my dad's my mother 354 00:15:09,980 --> 00:15:07,139 threw me out at that time with every 355 00:15:10,999 --> 00:15:09,990 good reason and liver my dad said you 356 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:11,009 come down here they didn't know I 357 00:15:13,790 --> 00:15:12,480 wouldn't tell my dad everything my 358 00:15:14,239 --> 00:15:13,800 mother didn't want to know it's just 359 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:14,249 scary 360 00:15:17,989 --> 00:15:16,170 I had only told a friend of mine Harold 361 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:17,999 saw him when we're drinking beer when I 362 00:15:22,549 --> 00:15:20,220 just got home and he goes you he was the 363 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:22,559 first guy I told on the street back in 364 00:15:26,869 --> 00:15:25,050 America and he said he said a lot more 365 00:15:30,259 --> 00:15:26,879 that you forgotten I said look it's 366 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:30,269 enough I am good well I had this oral 367 00:15:34,489 --> 00:15:32,610 surgery as plenty how things work and I 368 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:34,499 get home and really you know how that 369 00:15:39,049 --> 00:15:36,990 hurts it was the upper deck and I does a 370 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:39,059 Hartford Courant newspaper and I'm 371 00:15:42,499 --> 00:15:40,800 reading through it is the broad sheet 372 00:15:44,749 --> 00:15:42,509 from Hartford Connecticut the capital of 373 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:44,759 Connecticut and there was an article and 374 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:46,230 show this woman and her husband and 375 00:15:51,739 --> 00:15:47,970 these paper mache aliens and said 376 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:51,749 Cheshire couple talk of UFO expense 377 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:53,730 something I said what a bunch of whack 378 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:54,360 jobs 379 00:15:58,579 --> 00:15:55,889 I remember thinking what a bunch of nut 380 00:16:01,759 --> 00:15:58,589 cases but I missed it where the man 381 00:16:04,970 --> 00:16:01,769 worked and it was a he was a mechanic in 382 00:16:07,369 --> 00:16:04,980 a place to our viewership in the next 383 00:16:09,379 --> 00:16:07,379 town and I immediately called 384 00:16:12,290 --> 00:16:09,389 information on the phones remember on 385 00:16:14,989 --> 00:16:12,300 the wall I called him I just it was an 386 00:16:17,540 --> 00:16:14,999 impulse calling he gets on the phone and 387 00:16:19,939 --> 00:16:17,550 I say you Bob Luca his wife was Betty 388 00:16:22,460 --> 00:16:19,949 Andreasen if you know the book the 389 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:22,470 andreas an affair by Raymond Fowler I 390 00:16:27,169 --> 00:16:23,970 wasn't familiar with it at that time 391 00:16:28,999 --> 00:16:27,179 very famous controversial lady without 392 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:29,009 these people you would never know about 393 00:16:33,889 --> 00:16:31,769 revolution at all because God knows 394 00:16:35,239 --> 00:16:33,899 where I would go I called him I said 395 00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:35,249 listen I've been through something I 396 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:37,350 can't talk about it my family can I talk 397 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:40,050 - I live in the next town in Suneetha oh 398 00:16:43,250 --> 00:16:42,210 come on over and Bob just told me the 399 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:43,260 other night ghosts you know we have a 400 00:16:47,270 --> 00:16:45,480 tape from that night you came I said and 401 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:47,280 that would be the first time I ever went 402 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:50,820 on record go to their house have coffee 403 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:52,740 cake weird should happen those paper 404 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:54,660 mache things were there that unnerved me 405 00:16:59,480 --> 00:16:57,360 and I told them basically I didn't 406 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,490 mention this being things or whatever it 407 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:01,680 was but I gave them a roundabout 408 00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:04,020 safe version because back then you got 409 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:06,990 laughed at yeah for talking about just a 410 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,070 light in the sky 411 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:11,280 it's 1982 this repetition didn't come 412 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:12,750 out on the History Channel folks by the 413 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,240 way in 2010 with the time travel it's 414 00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:17,520 always been out there right out there 415 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:18,780 longer than some people in the room been 416 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:23,610 alive but people want to rewrite so I 417 00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:24,990 get there and they said well we have a 418 00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:27,660 friend who's a cop up in seven Coventry 419 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:30,360 Larry Fossum and he was an active 420 00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:32,070 lieutenant in the police but he was with 421 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:33,990 an organization called citizens against 422 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:36,870 UFO secrecy and they deal with the new 423 00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:38,880 Freedom of Information Act we have had 424 00:17:43,610 --> 00:17:41,940 and we'll hook you up with him so I had 425 00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:43,620 dinner with this guy Larry Fawcett 426 00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:45,060 that's a good luck you'll never get 427 00:17:48,110 --> 00:17:46,440 anything but I felt better talking to 428 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:48,120 these people is that for a real 429 00:17:51,950 --> 00:17:50,550 conservative family my dad my dad was my 430 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,960 biggest supporters but I don't think it 431 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:53,760 would be I thought he'd throw me out cuz 432 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:55,470 I said I think they thought I'd get 433 00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:56,970 thrown out of the Air Force or something 434 00:18:01,010 --> 00:17:59,100 for doing something I just didn't think 435 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:01,020 you could talk to them my brother in May 436 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:03,570 when all this came out gotten a fight we 437 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:05,310 went through a plastic board we leave 438 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:08,130 tour house apart he's an adze all the 439 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:10,770 [\h__\h] post-traumatic stress what 440 00:18:15,170 --> 00:18:12,900 happens my brother's way bigger than 441 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:15,180 bait I threw him around like a rag doll 442 00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:17,330 and I regret it to this day 443 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:19,200 destroyer I mean we're going through 444 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:22,140 plays like The Terminator this thing in 445 00:18:26,570 --> 00:18:24,630 us not good and believe me I'm not the 446 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:26,580 only one I'm just honest enough to say 447 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:31,290 it I do regret it it's real real stuff 448 00:18:36,770 --> 00:18:33,360 that went off every bad amazed on 449 00:18:41,260 --> 00:18:36,780 standing here and and I regret a lot of 450 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:41,270 it Behe it's a 100% so 451 00:18:45,850 --> 00:18:44,390 this Larry I made and he goes through 452 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:45,860 the whole thing was in New York I like 453 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:49,220 me and is in his 40s then he's deceased 454 00:18:53,290 --> 00:18:50,930 now and he they were working on a book 455 00:18:56,740 --> 00:18:53,300 called clear intent the government 456 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:56,750 cover-up of using foi required documents 457 00:19:01,630 --> 00:18:59,090 and I told the story and I'm like oh you 458 00:19:03,790 --> 00:19:01,640 know we've heard a few from England you 459 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:03,800 know because it was rumored that self or 460 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:06,140 they check the minute and I said okay 461 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:08,000 you know good luck with the thing I gave 462 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:09,650 him the time stains the approximants 463 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:13,010 they file an FOI a after multiple 464 00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:16,250 hilarious denials the air forces running 465 00:19:19,150 --> 00:19:16,700 scared 466 00:19:20,650 --> 00:19:19,160 l came the Hulk memo remember the day 467 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:20,660 get home we got him lair 468 00:19:24,220 --> 00:19:22,430 and I go you got what he goes we got a 469 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:24,230 document telling you believe it or not 470 00:19:28,180 --> 00:19:26,200 was there for all this with just 471 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,190 magically everyone else I was there I 472 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:30,320 was a phone call we've got it and I said 473 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:33,050 what I was the most surprised of anybody 474 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:35,450 unexplained lights you read it I'm like 475 00:19:38,530 --> 00:19:36,320 I can't believe this 476 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:38,540 Colonel halt ago I remember Colonel Hall 477 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:39,530 I remember the name 478 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:42,050 I had no interaction with him during 479 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:45,200 those events at all I just didn't well 480 00:19:51,370 --> 00:19:48,080 there it began folks the cap is out of 481 00:19:54,670 --> 00:19:51,380 the bag and October when you learned 482 00:19:57,550 --> 00:19:54,680 about it here we sent the halt memo to 483 00:19:58,930 --> 00:19:57,560 England to researchers one I won't 484 00:20:01,480 --> 00:19:58,940 mention that serum I'm going to be 485 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:01,490 positive today it doesn't look good for 486 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:04,730 them but we sent it gratis and a 487 00:20:08,410 --> 00:20:06,590 particular a lawyer for Manchester 488 00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:08,420 decided to sell it to the news of the 489 00:20:13,030 --> 00:20:10,190 world which I wasn't familiar at the 490 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:13,040 paper for twenty five thousand nineteen 491 00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:15,890 eighty two pounds which was split four 492 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:19,550 ways well some ways between some folks 493 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:23,030 you know I have never taken a penny from 494 00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:25,100 anything without my name on it in this 495 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:28,340 I've passed everything that's one thing 496 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:30,170 I'm proud of when that first came out 497 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:31,910 then that we had a rag in the safe spell 498 00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:33,950 the National Enquirer and they called 499 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:36,200 they go because it was making the news 500 00:20:41,020 --> 00:20:38,510 in the states before here and they said 501 00:20:42,550 --> 00:20:41,030 can you which can you sell this to us 502 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:42,560 for five thousand and I said 503 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:45,530 fine oh that's a secondhand Harley I'd 504 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:48,320 get right so my father I never been 505 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:50,330 sayin I go and get 5000 bucks now I'm 506 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:53,000 young you know and he goes he goes is 507 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:53,840 your name on it 508 00:20:59,440 --> 00:20:56,510 I go no but he goes I think you'll 509 00:21:02,440 --> 00:20:59,450 regret selling it if you do now 20 years 510 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:02,450 dirty glad i missin my old man not a lot 511 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:06,320 but I did on that one and that started 512 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,750 folks that was the cap was truly out of 513 00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:10,880 the bag not 2010 guys this has been 514 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:11,980 forever 515 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:14,960 anyway a price was put on blood sadly on 516 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:16,610 this side of the Atlantic that the 517 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:18,230 states are no better with what helps 518 00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:19,730 certain people have done things they're 519 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:23,270 either with this as you know and that 520 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:25,250 started a front page of the news of the 521 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:28,730 world Sunday edition October 3rd 1983 522 00:21:34,450 --> 00:21:32,000 you woke up to that news UFO lands in 523 00:21:36,910 --> 00:21:34,460 Suffolk and it's official now I know 524 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:36,920 it's a tabloid but it was a major 525 00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:39,410 circulation tabloid remember no internet 526 00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:43,670 then newspapers were the way and that 527 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:46,040 was it it was out the next thing that 528 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:49,910 happens you know look the first 529 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:52,610 conference I ever did I again I was just 530 00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:54,290 trying to talk to someone about the 531 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:56,390 floral surgery about instead of my 532 00:21:59,920 --> 00:21:57,770 family someone that's been through 533 00:22:03,490 --> 00:21:59,930 something that would listen to me that's 534 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:03,500 all I wanted I had no frickin idea about 535 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:07,760 where this I'd be 35 years no nor a 536 00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:10,400 desire you know I was aiming for music 537 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:12,830 and you know a semi yes some kind of 538 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:15,820 career in the audio creative thing 539 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:18,140 because I knew the Air Force was over I 540 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:20,090 mean that was done and that price in the 541 00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:21,980 gun in there anyways probably probably 542 00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:23,960 was raw material was definitely raw 543 00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:25,580 material for the people to suppress this 544 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:31,280 [\h__\h] don't you know but uh the next 545 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:34,280 thing that happened we this be exploded 546 00:22:37,210 --> 00:22:35,330 it was big news 547 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:37,220 I talked to certain researchers on the 548 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:40,400 phone here they called me lots of things 549 00:22:43,150 --> 00:22:41,870 were not it's it's in the book some 550 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:43,160 aren't there I don't like to embarrass 551 00:22:47,419 --> 00:22:45,650 people actually do don't I could write 552 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:47,429 three books on what's 553 00:22:56,629 --> 00:22:54,600 one's enough but it by 1984 that's 554 00:23:01,249 --> 00:22:56,639 pretty well known I led the witnesses 555 00:23:03,139 --> 00:23:01,259 the people to other witnesses Jim 556 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:03,149 Penniston John Burroughs were definitely 557 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:05,460 not radar for another decade by the way 558 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,769 Charles halt nothing there are still 559 00:23:11,389 --> 00:23:09,840 active duty so that you never meet them 560 00:23:14,139 --> 00:23:11,399 but I'm going to show you something that 561 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:14,149 were you gonna meet other witnesses 1984 562 00:23:18,649 --> 00:23:16,529 this is quite a famous thing I had 563 00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:18,659 already been on BBC Breakfast time with 564 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:21,480 a friend I was in blacked out I never 565 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:23,369 used the name art Wallace you always 566 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,289 hear that when he used the name never 567 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:27,600 all I said to the authors of the book 568 00:23:31,879 --> 00:23:29,580 clear intent if you and that was the 569 00:23:32,299 --> 00:23:31,889 first time the document remember was put 570 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:32,309 in it 571 00:23:36,919 --> 00:23:35,249 my a bit of my account first time the 572 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:36,929 account was in ever a book is clear 573 00:23:41,479 --> 00:23:39,570 intent not the sky crash I said just 574 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:41,489 don't use my name until other witnesses 575 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:44,450 verified so one of the co-authors puts 576 00:23:49,879 --> 00:23:47,609 made-up name art walls I have been 577 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:49,889 fighting for 32 years telling people 578 00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:52,350 over and over I've never used the name 579 00:23:57,349 --> 00:23:55,139 has nothing to do with me but humanity 580 00:23:59,389 --> 00:23:57,359 really does your head him doesn't it our 581 00:24:01,849 --> 00:23:59,399 wallets maybe I should do radio one day 582 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:01,859 I don't know but write a book perhaps 583 00:24:07,999 --> 00:24:05,279 who knows radios you let's do one I 584 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,009 don't know how to do it but this is the 585 00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:11,220 humans driving this but anyway this 586 00:24:16,970 --> 00:24:14,220 explosion now in 1904 the Japs came 587 00:24:18,919 --> 00:24:16,980 around and the regular kind of America 588 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:18,929 I'm the only guy to go I'm the go-to guy 589 00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:20,850 there was no one else back in me up 590 00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,019 everything you think of now didn't exist 591 00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,279 it was I was the guy that was the only 592 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:31,279 thing I was more surprised than anyone 593 00:24:35,389 --> 00:24:33,899 and the Japs come to May and you should 594 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,399 see those shows men I looked like a 595 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:37,200 scared dear I haven't a friend look at 596 00:24:41,869 --> 00:24:39,090 that say you look so shell-shocked at 597 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:41,879 that age like France and I go I guess 598 00:24:48,049 --> 00:24:44,809 that was for a couple decades easy and 599 00:24:51,229 --> 00:24:48,059 the Japanese got a janeshia alloy with 600 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:51,239 Nippon television says to me an RA shot 601 00:24:54,490 --> 00:24:53,190 over here and film people he goes have 602 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:54,500 you heard the tape and 603 00:24:58,899 --> 00:24:57,440 but tape he went on he'll hear clips of 604 00:25:01,779 --> 00:24:58,909 it in a minute if you're not familiar 605 00:25:03,399 --> 00:25:01,789 with it my tape because of the event he 606 00:25:05,049 --> 00:25:03,409 played it my fault my parents were 607 00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:05,059 around my father stepmother all we're in 608 00:25:08,769 --> 00:25:06,950 the liver couple living room we played 609 00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:08,779 it and we've been shooting all day I got 610 00:25:13,389 --> 00:25:11,480 redressed in all this [\h__\h] but you know 611 00:25:15,129 --> 00:25:13,399 I was skeptical on him skeptical guy 612 00:25:16,990 --> 00:25:15,139 believe it or not I'm not cool kind of 613 00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:17,000 guy and I show me 614 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:20,779 and sure enough place this 18 minutes of 615 00:25:25,330 --> 00:25:23,600 audio as soon as it begins I'm not 616 00:25:27,539 --> 00:25:25,340 listening so much to the voice I'm 617 00:25:29,169 --> 00:25:27,549 listen to then freak with the radio 618 00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:29,179 communication chatter in the background 619 00:25:34,769 --> 00:25:32,750 I'm like holy [\h__\h] that's all night all 620 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:34,779 the call signs they were our call size 621 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:37,490 and I everyone's a distance and there 622 00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:40,070 I'm like oh my god I've got to have this 623 00:25:43,690 --> 00:25:42,200 he goes well if you come to Japan so I 624 00:25:45,970 --> 00:25:43,700 went to Japan and you think we're in 625 00:25:47,889 --> 00:25:45,980 this for money no I could have asked for 626 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:47,899 50 grand and probably got it 627 00:25:53,889 --> 00:25:51,320 I asked that's us I'll tell you what I 628 00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:53,899 look back it is funny I said can I take 629 00:26:01,779 --> 00:25:57,649 my brother and they go oh my go they go 630 00:26:04,299 --> 00:26:01,789 how about $500 I'm like okay I could 631 00:26:06,430 --> 00:26:04,309 have put zeros across the map because 632 00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:06,440 when I got to Japan which was a great 633 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:10,940 experience I'm happy I did I'm happy I 634 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:12,529 don't and I have to share a story with 635 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:15,470 you do I get to Japan it was like being 636 00:26:20,619 --> 00:26:18,169 the Beatles I landed with little Stephen 637 00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:20,629 and the disciples the soul Steve Van 638 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:22,460 Sant from The Sopranos Bruce Prince they 639 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:24,679 were all in the same flight 14 hours 640 00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:28,250 crammed in George Benson the guitar he 641 00:26:32,379 --> 00:26:30,440 was up there with just jam 14 I was 642 00:26:34,350 --> 00:26:32,389 going to Japan we landed in a Rita 643 00:26:37,149 --> 00:26:34,360 Airport and we're walking 644 00:26:39,249 --> 00:26:37,159 Steven and M - yeah you know they had 645 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:39,259 that Sun city song out at that time 646 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:40,940 and we're going down this I wasn't like 647 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:43,460 moving sidewalks I was like this Japs 648 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:45,590 got everything and we're going down I 649 00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:46,970 get to the others all this press and 650 00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:49,159 taking pictures and I'm like outstanding 651 00:26:53,409 --> 00:26:50,929 back it's you know he's in Springsteen's 652 00:26:56,499 --> 00:26:53,419 bed it wasn't for him 653 00:26:58,690 --> 00:26:56,509 ivana son uh well listen the pictures of 654 00:27:01,390 --> 00:26:58,700 me an appointment all this it was like 655 00:27:03,130 --> 00:27:01,400 the Beatles of the [\h__\h] gold 656 00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:03,140 good bands ants I've seen in Cynthia's 657 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:05,150 [\h__\h] oh babe this we were selling we 658 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:07,450 were Barris and they're like oh my god 659 00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:12,530 but I move down the line custom I'm not 660 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:14,900 kidding you and I'm like I was scared 661 00:27:21,010 --> 00:27:16,910 I'm like what if I got into I'm like 662 00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:21,020 this is madness out to limos print 663 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:23,660 following running in cars filming and 664 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:27,290 smiling I'm like stop this this is what 665 00:27:31,210 --> 00:27:29,390 they look against McCartney about this 666 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:31,220 truly happened it was really scary to be 667 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:33,170 honest with you I have film of this 668 00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:35,450 walking through and just it was like I'm 669 00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:38,780 Kim Kardashian her her ex former father 670 00:27:44,770 --> 00:27:42,590 or whatever it was and it was scary was 671 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:44,780 amazing but Japan being there was a 672 00:27:50,350 --> 00:27:46,550 fantastic thing I hung out with your 673 00:27:53,650 --> 00:27:50,360 regular and the Ben peas he did and I 674 00:27:56,290 --> 00:27:53,660 hung out with Queen that were there for 675 00:27:58,170 --> 00:27:56,300 the tennis thing I met with Freddie it 676 00:28:00,610 --> 00:27:58,180 was basically I was telling this why why 677 00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:00,620 we were in the pond radio I love these 678 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:00,980 things 679 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:02,900 I I could do another one we're up in the 680 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:06,050 pond radio so I have done radio and the 681 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:07,910 Queen was promoting some out and they 682 00:28:12,850 --> 00:28:10,250 were all up there in Japan immense like 683 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:12,860 the weirdest it's like being on Mars and 684 00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,170 so I'm sitting in this greenroom thing 685 00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:17,120 and Freddie smoked which you wouldn't 686 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:19,100 think but he's just smoking it's what he 687 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:20,570 here for darling and I go like this and 688 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,490 I went through this UFO thing it was oh 689 00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:24,080 I don't remember what he said but it was 690 00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:25,820 almost like [\h__\h] please it was 691 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:28,360 something like that was hilarious and 692 00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:31,070 yes we're there and the late great Rick 693 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:33,440 wake not Rick Wakeman I know Rick he's a 694 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:36,350 big ally of ours uh Chris wired I and I 695 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:38,570 hung out with them guys they were 696 00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:40,010 there's a big tennis thing going on that 697 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:41,900 McEnroe guy was over there 698 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,750 and we all seen every round I hung out 699 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:47,360 and this club whole next season Queen 700 00:28:52,570 --> 00:28:49,850 and it was it just a great time but 701 00:28:54,670 --> 00:28:52,580 scary but my mission was to get the 702 00:28:57,220 --> 00:28:54,680 actual I did a lot of TV shows Johnny 703 00:28:59,410 --> 00:28:57,230 Depp was in a movie I know recreation we 704 00:29:00,550 --> 00:28:59,420 did I played myself we filmed at the 705 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:00,560 base of Mount Fuji 706 00:29:04,510 --> 00:29:03,110 Johnny Depp was a male model before he 707 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:04,520 did 21 Jump Street 708 00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:05,750 working in Japan 709 00:29:10,659 --> 00:29:09,080 and took acting jobs on the side and his 710 00:29:13,090 --> 00:29:10,669 name was John death and he had a 711 00:29:15,009 --> 00:29:13,100 Kentucky accent and he wasn't the John 712 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:15,019 you know now but he now has a house 713 00:29:21,159 --> 00:29:18,529 right near our air base life's weird and 714 00:29:22,509 --> 00:29:21,169 he played just extra background guy in 715 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:22,519 fact I told him just went back and then 716 00:29:26,649 --> 00:29:25,250 the directors got furious long story and 717 00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:26,659 a lot of that's covered in the book but 718 00:29:30,909 --> 00:29:29,240 who knew Johnny Depp he was not though 719 00:29:32,409 --> 00:29:30,919 I'm thinking no one's gonna see this 720 00:29:33,789 --> 00:29:32,419 [\h__\h] it's all over the youtubes now 721 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:33,799 though it didn't exist that I'm like 722 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:36,049 this is Japan no we'll see this the 723 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:37,850 effects they did it was like just short 724 00:29:41,769 --> 00:29:39,769 of godzilla mothra flying in on 725 00:29:44,049 --> 00:29:41,779 Rendlesham that was truly like that and 726 00:29:46,419 --> 00:29:44,059 the same people that did the effects did 727 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:46,429 the effects on this crazy Japanese movie 728 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:48,769 but my son falls down left laughing a 729 00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:51,080 pie or girly stuff is bad your hair man 730 00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:53,809 you'll see some hair BG hair like I 731 00:29:59,889 --> 00:29:57,700 scout Maurice given but enough but we 732 00:30:03,549 --> 00:29:59,899 these are some of the fun things you 733 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,559 know funny memories things but that's 31 734 00:30:08,019 --> 00:30:06,080 years ago but what I did do is came back 735 00:30:10,539 --> 00:30:08,029 with that audio but I made the promise 736 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:10,549 that's where I was dishonest I told you 737 00:30:15,009 --> 00:30:12,529 news he goes he must not play this for 738 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:15,019 anyone well over here researchers remain 739 00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:17,210 nameless we're taking that tape and 740 00:30:20,499 --> 00:30:18,860 saying we have it not sharing it with 741 00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:20,509 any we had never been in the media here 742 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:22,460 it was didn't draws and I've got 743 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:27,620 something I said screw you they got back 744 00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:30,169 well I was already in the process of 745 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:32,870 being an adviser to a program called for 746 00:30:38,769 --> 00:30:36,100 CNN 5 years old CNN at this time a 747 00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:38,779 special assignment and it would to be 748 00:30:43,659 --> 00:30:41,149 called UFO of the Bentwaters incident 749 00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:43,669 I'm about to show that to you you are 750 00:30:49,450 --> 00:30:45,860 alight with that it's a three-part 751 00:30:51,549 --> 00:30:49,460 series that aired in February of 85 you 752 00:30:54,249 --> 00:30:51,559 will see witnesses all blacked out that 753 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:54,259 you have never seen again that lived 754 00:31:00,249 --> 00:30:56,570 through this thing and then you see 755 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,259 dumbass who is not blacked out because I 756 00:31:04,570 --> 00:31:02,240 was already known for two years with it 757 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:04,580 but all CNN went to the guys I say go to 758 00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:06,080 them if you're lying there cuz they go 759 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:08,120 see and he's got to tell you they all 760 00:31:16,299 --> 00:31:13,129 you'll see tell you how old this is no 761 00:31:17,629 --> 00:31:16,309 graphics like CGI a courtroom artist in 762 00:31:19,969 --> 00:31:17,639 DC just drew a picture 763 00:31:21,949 --> 00:31:19,979 they didn't consult with me it looks 764 00:31:24,469 --> 00:31:21,959 like aliens are having iced tea on it 765 00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:24,479 but the concept of this is that CNN 766 00:31:30,349 --> 00:31:27,659 caught the air force in 16 lies the man 767 00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,359 that did the thing is Chuck de Caro you 768 00:31:33,849 --> 00:31:32,159 might have seen the news on Chuck a few 769 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:33,859 weeks ago he's a special forces 770 00:31:41,089 --> 00:31:36,450 reservists then but he was the son 771 00:31:43,849 --> 00:31:41,099 military and technology guy for CNN he 772 00:31:45,739 --> 00:31:43,859 did this he knew that these events 773 00:31:48,349 --> 00:31:45,749 happen but he knew the nuclear element 774 00:31:50,329 --> 00:31:48,359 was ultimately important that makes an 775 00:31:52,879 --> 00:31:50,339 extreme defense significance for your 776 00:31:54,409 --> 00:31:52,889 country so when they say lighthouse no 777 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:54,419 yet but they Admiral of the fleet the 778 00:31:58,879 --> 00:31:56,190 Lord Peter he'll Norton who I knew 779 00:32:00,319 --> 00:31:58,889 didn't just hear about him actually knew 780 00:32:03,349 --> 00:32:00,329 him called him Pete once didn't like 781 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,359 that and Peter Robbins god bless him 782 00:32:08,299 --> 00:32:05,519 would always get his title wrong Admiral 783 00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:08,309 Lord and he goes it's the Lord and 784 00:32:12,499 --> 00:32:09,479 Peterson sorry 785 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:12,509 so I'm like Pete you know don't worry 786 00:32:18,379 --> 00:32:16,409 it's like it's Peter we learned our 787 00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:18,389 place but man respect to the guy he was 788 00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:21,149 the head of freaking NATO and a huge 789 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:24,419 ally of this thing and I seen other 790 00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:27,329 people hello Peter no no no no he was 791 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:30,269 odd it was Uncle Peter and a big 792 00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:32,609 supporter and got arrested so very brave 793 00:32:37,969 --> 00:32:35,549 man but again the head of frickin NATO 794 00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:37,979 in his day that's kind of a good job 795 00:32:45,109 --> 00:32:42,419 Suffolk Donald's is it so uh I got that 796 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,119 tape and I get back and I tell Chuck the 797 00:32:49,339 --> 00:32:47,039 Carroll I said I've got a tape of the 798 00:32:51,199 --> 00:32:49,349 incident part of it now at this point I 799 00:32:52,819 --> 00:32:51,209 still thought the instance all must have 800 00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:52,829 been in one night because we came out I 801 00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:54,149 couldn't imagine how could this happen 802 00:32:59,599 --> 00:32:57,539 three nights and no one know and so I 803 00:33:01,879 --> 00:32:59,609 thought we were responding to what the 804 00:33:03,859 --> 00:33:01,889 earlier incident was meant with me 805 00:33:06,049 --> 00:33:03,869 awhile that's the job they used to pick 806 00:33:08,209 --> 00:33:06,059 up man it just didn't make sense to me 807 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,219 and maybe anyone else it wouldn't but it 808 00:33:12,949 --> 00:33:10,559 was three nights by then I think I knew 809 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:12,959 so I took the tape and I gave it to 810 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:17,279 Chuck and this is the first time the CNN 811 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:19,679 the CNN actually should possible play 812 00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:22,529 this tape now this program was lost in 813 00:33:27,139 --> 00:33:24,899 time CNN didn't even own a copy of this 814 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:27,149 I found it in a bass 815 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:30,450 in my house an old tank I sent it down 816 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:31,950 CNN didn't even have it in their 817 00:33:37,009 --> 00:33:34,409 archives this was their highest-rated 818 00:33:39,379 --> 00:33:37,019 special assignment to that point 1985 819 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:39,389 now if you're looking for graphics and 820 00:33:44,539 --> 00:33:42,690 groove like now it ain't it's definitely 821 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:44,549 historic but what's important here is 822 00:33:49,099 --> 00:33:45,809 the people you're going to meet and 823 00:33:51,349 --> 00:33:49,109 listen to what they say you'll find I 824 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:51,359 ain't the only one but they have never 825 00:33:57,019 --> 00:33:53,849 spoken again and as I say with the vile 826 00:33:59,239 --> 00:33:57,029 abuse even some of our own have 827 00:34:00,469 --> 00:33:59,249 committed upon us and the memories of 828 00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:00,479 those who are here 829 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:04,169 would you I'm the only one crazy enough 830 00:34:09,649 --> 00:34:07,710 to do that where's my spectacles and I 831 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:09,659 hope you enjoy this but it is a historic 832 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,369 important thing that certain parties 833 00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,399 would rather you never seen and they 834 00:34:17,569 --> 00:34:15,839 still don't want you to see them as too 835 00:34:19,129 --> 00:34:17,579 late because it's on freaking YouTube 836 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:19,139 and John Hanson or what's-his-name 837 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:19,649 kisser 838 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:22,649 skunk man can't stop it no probably put 839 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:23,940 a complaint on this too 840 00:34:31,549 --> 00:34:28,679 it's mine oh it is not and that is see 841 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:31,559 and and forgive the primitive nature of 842 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:42,500 [Music] 843 00:34:59,279 --> 00:34:56,549 and here we are lady okay did you need 844 00:35:01,799 --> 00:34:59,289 to get them okay what this is Chuck 845 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:01,809 actually let us say and he married the 846 00:35:07,170 --> 00:35:04,450 first CNN actor the first actor of 847 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:07,180 American news then and they were 848 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:09,130 traveling through the country just three 849 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:11,410 weeks ago stopped at a hotel in New 850 00:35:16,410 --> 00:35:14,230 Mexico a guy broke in and a shootout 851 00:35:18,509 --> 00:35:16,420 ensued between shocked he was protecting 852 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:18,519 his wife Chuck was shot three times that 853 00:35:22,739 --> 00:35:20,650 guy you're about to see and he is 854 00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,749 recovering in hospital II did kill the 855 00:35:27,029 --> 00:35:24,160 assailant than the Acela would have 856 00:35:29,759 --> 00:35:27,039 executed both of them just to rob so 857 00:35:31,799 --> 00:35:29,769 that's a sidebar it never stops with 858 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:31,809 this thing but there's a very brave 859 00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:33,910 reporter and I have a lot of respect and 860 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:36,940 he just forgive my hairstyle and 861 00:35:41,999 --> 00:35:39,730 remember this when you see my shot begin 862 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:42,009 I'm walking through the back my father's 863 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:44,380 back garden and what you they cut out is 864 00:36:07,440 --> 00:35:46,630 my father yelling don't let him film the 865 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:07,450 goddamn house this is the countryside of 866 00:36:12,329 --> 00:36:09,910 the county of East Anglia on the east 867 00:36:14,430 --> 00:36:12,339 central Sea coast of England it is a 868 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,440 quiet land of thatched roof houses and 869 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:16,960 farms coastal washes and fishing 870 00:36:22,589 --> 00:36:19,690 villages near the town of Woodbridge is 871 00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:22,599 the Rendlesham forest 10,000 acres of 872 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:25,180 scotch and Corsican pine forested by the 873 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:27,670 British government the Rendlesham forest 874 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:29,980 is also the home of the US Air Force's 875 00:36:35,489 --> 00:36:32,950 81st Tactical Fighter Wing located on a 876 00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:35,499 twin base complex formed by Woodbridge 877 00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:38,140 and Bentwaters Air Field located some 878 00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:42,400 six miles apart the first fly some 158 879 00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:45,670 10 pink buster aircraft over four years 880 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:48,160 ago however the area adjacent to the 881 00:36:52,979 --> 00:36:50,680 Woodbridge headquarters complex was the 882 00:36:55,529 --> 00:36:52,989 site of what witnesses say was an 883 00:36:58,019 --> 00:36:55,539 astounding event seemingly taken from 884 00:37:00,269 --> 00:36:58,029 science fiction they claimed that the 885 00:37:02,609 --> 00:37:00,279 Rendlesham forest was the landing site 886 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:02,619 of an unidentified flying object 887 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,880 that's all 888 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:18,729 every one of the witnesses is mechanic 889 00:37:23,799 --> 00:37:21,200 Jerry Harris who owns a car repair shop 890 00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:23,809 just off the runway at Bentwaters field 891 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:27,289 I suppose you must be mad cause I'll 892 00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:29,089 never see who was an ad must be similar 893 00:37:34,509 --> 00:37:32,390 or a sudden of maintenance on Gordon 894 00:37:37,299 --> 00:37:34,519 Levitt a game warden who lives in Orford 895 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:37,309 near Woodbridge saw it too first of all 896 00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:40,089 it looks as though it was an aircraft 897 00:37:46,539 --> 00:37:42,920 the light was coming in it appeared to 898 00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:46,549 be quite slow and then it speeded up and 899 00:37:52,479 --> 00:37:49,670 it came towards the lodge and the closer 900 00:37:56,019 --> 00:37:52,489 cut the more I realized it was not an 901 00:37:57,539 --> 00:37:56,029 aircraft the British tabloid press had a 902 00:37:59,849 --> 00:37:57,549 field day with reports of the incident 903 00:38:04,089 --> 00:37:59,859 with stories of flying saucers 904 00:38:06,489 --> 00:38:04,099 mysterious lights and even aliens The 905 00:38:08,319 --> 00:38:06,499 Times of London however dismissed the 906 00:38:11,140 --> 00:38:08,329 incident and poked fun at the other 907 00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:11,150 newspapers it quoted this man Vince or 908 00:38:15,789 --> 00:38:13,220 kettle a forester who works near the 909 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:15,799 alleged landing site their kennel told 910 00:38:20,739 --> 00:38:18,529 CNN that the UFO was merely a beam of 911 00:38:22,479 --> 00:38:20,749 light from the nearby offered lighthouse 912 00:38:24,489 --> 00:38:22,489 but if you didn't know as a lighthouse 913 00:38:26,349 --> 00:38:24,499 if you thought it was something small 914 00:38:28,299 --> 00:38:26,359 maybe 2 3 metres across 915 00:38:30,249 --> 00:38:28,309 pulsing about and pulsing white in the 916 00:38:31,989 --> 00:38:30,259 forest yes it looks as if it's within 917 00:38:34,210 --> 00:38:31,999 the trees and it does appear to light 918 00:38:36,220 --> 00:38:34,220 out the trees as well but gordon-levitt 919 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:36,230 the game warden who was also familiar 920 00:38:40,210 --> 00:38:38,390 with the course dismissed the lighthouse 921 00:38:42,849 --> 00:38:40,220 Theory outright at the moment we're 922 00:38:44,410 --> 00:38:42,859 standing on the Offutt cave and quite 923 00:38:47,859 --> 00:38:44,420 clearly you can see the light has over 924 00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:47,869 there pricing and the light from the UFO 925 00:38:53,499 --> 00:38:51,319 was tobin nothing like the light from a 926 00:38:56,349 --> 00:38:53,509 lighter what makes the Bentwaters 927 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:56,359 Woodbridge UFO incident unique is that 928 00:39:01,029 --> 00:38:58,930 this official US Air Force report 929 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:01,039 obtained under the Freedom of 930 00:39:05,470 --> 00:39:03,890 Information Act documents two UFO 931 00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:05,480 incidents that were intensely 932 00:39:11,819 --> 00:39:08,440 investigated by the Air Force it's 933 00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:11,829 early in the morning of December 27 1982 934 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,230 Air Force security police patrolmen saw 935 00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:16,480 unusual lights outside the back gate at 936 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,940 RAF Woodbridge thinking an aircraft 937 00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:20,560 might have crashed they called for 938 00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:22,839 permission to investigate the on-duty 939 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:25,060 flight chief allowed three patrolmen to 940 00:39:30,059 --> 00:39:27,790 proceed on foot the individuals were put 941 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:30,069 seeing a strange glowing object in the 942 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:32,260 forest that was metallic an appearance 943 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:34,390 pan triangular in shape approximately 944 00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:37,000 two to three meters across the base and 945 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:39,460 two meters high in illuminated the 946 00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:41,890 entire forest with a white light the 947 00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:44,079 object had a pulsating red light on top 948 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:46,180 and the bank of blue lights underneath 949 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:49,300 it was hovering or on legs at the 950 00:39:53,579 --> 00:39:51,040 patrolmen approached and maneuvered 951 00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:53,589 through the trees and disappeared the 952 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,750 next day three depressions one and a 953 00:39:59,700 --> 00:39:57,520 half inches deep and seven inches in 954 00:40:02,040 --> 00:39:59,710 diameter were found where the object had 955 00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:02,050 been sighted on the ground the following 956 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:03,990 night the area was checked for radiation 957 00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:07,780 beta gamma readings 0.1 Miller ends were 958 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:10,180 recorded with peak readings in the three 959 00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:12,190 depressions and near the center of the 960 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:14,440 triangle worn by the depressions a 961 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:17,170 nearby tree had moderate readings on the 962 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:18,940 side of the tree toward the depressions 963 00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:21,490 later in the night a red sunlight the 964 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:23,230 light was seen through the trees it 965 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:25,960 moved about and pulse at one point it 966 00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:27,910 appeared to throw off glowing particles 967 00:40:32,609 --> 00:40:30,040 and then broke into five separate white 968 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:32,619 objects and then disappeared immediately 969 00:40:37,230 --> 00:40:34,990 thereafter three star-like objects were 970 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:37,240 deadest in the sky two objects to the 971 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:39,730 north and one to the south all of which 972 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:41,490 were about 10 degrees off the horizon 973 00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:44,950 the object moved about in sharp angular 974 00:40:49,290 --> 00:40:47,079 movements and displayed red green and 975 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:49,300 blue lights the objects to the north 976 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:51,310 appeared to be elliptical and then 977 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:53,110 turned four circles 978 00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:55,090 and remain in the sky for an hour or 979 00:41:00,060 --> 00:40:57,730 more the object to the south was visible 980 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:00,070 for two or three hours and being down a 981 00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:01,510 stream of light from time to time 982 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:04,060 numerous individuals including the 983 00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:06,250 undersigned witnessed activities in 984 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:09,580 paragraphs two and three sighs Charles I 985 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:10,210 halt 986 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:12,280 Lieutenant Colonel the United States Air 987 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:15,850 Force deputy base commander but I think 988 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:19,750 I saw a UFO it's some kind of a 989 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:22,450 spaceship from someplace not of this 990 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:25,330 earth airman Gregg is a former Air Force 991 00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:27,610 security policeman who says he was a 992 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:29,740 witness to the second of two UFO 993 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:32,110 landings on consecutive days in December 994 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:35,140 1980 outside the US air force base at 995 00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,630 Woodbridge England those events were 996 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,000 documented in this official US Air Force 997 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:42,160 report released under the Freedom of 998 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:44,590 Information Act according to the report 999 00:41:49,290 --> 00:41:46,990 in the first encounter before daybreak 1000 00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:49,300 three security policemen saw a luminous 1001 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:51,070 metallic object and followed it through 1002 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:52,870 the forest as it maneuvered for the 1003 00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:54,850 trees and then disappeared after 1004 00:41:59,070 --> 00:41:56,950 daybreak this now retired security 1005 00:42:01,020 --> 00:41:59,080 police Master Sergeant went to the site 1006 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:01,030 of the incident along with others to 1007 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:03,220 determine what had happened to protect 1008 00:42:07,530 --> 00:42:05,290 his current government job he asked not 1009 00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:07,540 to be identified and an approximate 1010 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:11,950 location of this alleged crash landing 1011 00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:15,730 in the wooded area I found what appeared 1012 00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:18,870 to be three depressions in the ground 1013 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:21,960 the ground was rather soft at that time 1014 00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:24,670 but three depressions in a triangular 1015 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:27,420 pattern but it turned out that they were 1016 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:28,650 12-foot 1017 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:31,810 equidistant from each other 1018 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:34,570 measured from Senator sessions and 1019 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:36,700 officer who accompanies Master Sergeant 1020 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:39,280 G corroborates that account but since he 1021 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:41,770 is still on active duty he to ask for an 1022 00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:43,930 annuity both he and the sergeant said 1023 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:45,640 they took photographs of the physical 1024 00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:48,050 evidence I took the pictures and 1025 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:50,030 we thought we had some evidence but when 1026 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:52,250 the pictures came back they will all 1027 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,890 fight it out there was nothing on the on 1028 00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:56,720 the film itself or on the negatives 1029 00:43:02,710 --> 00:42:58,850 because the site of the incident was 1030 00:43:49,590 --> 00:43:02,720 located between the two air bases were 1031 00:43:53,830 --> 00:43:51,880 according to Air Force sources the 1032 00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:53,840 deputy base commander Lieutenant Colonel 1033 00:43:58,359 --> 00:43:56,359 Charles I halt later the author of the 1034 00:44:00,580 --> 00:43:58,369 only known written account of the UFO 1035 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,590 events advised the heightened state of 1036 00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:02,720 surveillance in case the UFO returned 1037 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:04,760 the following night of four main 1038 00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:06,770 perimeter patrol near the back gate at 1039 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:09,980 Woodbridge saw the UFO again airman Greg 1040 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:12,530 was a member of that Patrol we were 1041 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:13,970 about halfway into the shift I guess 1042 00:44:19,450 --> 00:44:16,010 when we noticed some lights in the sky 1043 00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:19,460 that didn't seem to follow any pattern 1044 00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:25,300 of any aircraft that we'd seen and we 1045 00:44:30,730 --> 00:44:27,590 watched him for a while and disappeared 1046 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:30,740 and the next thing that we saw was the 1047 00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:32,810 lights in a forest 1048 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:35,030 in a clearing it was off the end of the 1049 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:39,620 runway and we called Cielo central 1050 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:41,150 security control to tell them that we'd 1051 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:43,310 like to go investigate it and they give 1052 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:44,740 us permission to go ahead and go on out 1053 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:48,770 as we got in there we got could see into 1054 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:51,050 their clearing and see a series of 1055 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:53,150 lights in there surrounded by that 1056 00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:54,170 ground fog 1057 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:55,880 it was kind of common in the area so we 1058 00:45:00,190 --> 00:44:58,880 didn't think too much of it and we 1059 00:45:02,830 --> 00:45:00,200 decided a little bit closer soon we 1060 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:02,840 could find out and when we got closer in 1061 00:45:07,150 --> 00:45:05,030 the field the hair on your arms in the 1062 00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:07,160 backyard enacting it yeah under your hat 1063 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:09,260 even stand on him it's like it was a 1064 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,450 real big static charge in the air let me 1065 00:45:17,460 --> 00:45:14,240 ask where you are the time yes what kind 1066 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:17,470 of weapon worked here the m16 did you 1067 00:45:23,410 --> 00:45:20,510 load the weapon and any time yes I did 1068 00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:23,420 loaded and put it on semi-automatic we 1069 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:24,680 didn't know what we were encountering 1070 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:27,050 you only knew it was something that that 1071 00:45:30,580 --> 00:45:29,150 was totally beyond our realm of 1072 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:30,590 experience we've never experienced 1073 00:45:34,990 --> 00:45:32,990 anything like this before and about that 1074 00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:35,000 time we decided that we better get that 1075 00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:36,110 guy there because we were getting a 1076 00:45:42,670 --> 00:45:38,990 little too scared and we took off better 1077 00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:42,680 run went back our vehicle as they 1078 00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:44,870 reached their patrol truck he says there 1079 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:46,670 were about half a dozen vehicles and 1080 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:48,470 about 30 men strung out along the 1081 00:45:52,990 --> 00:45:51,170 roadside among the first to arrive was 1082 00:45:55,930 --> 00:45:53,000 deputy base commander Lieutenant Colonel 1083 00:45:57,940 --> 00:45:55,940 Charles I halt in a three-man team one 1084 00:45:59,410 --> 00:45:57,950 of them is this sergeant he is still an 1085 00:46:01,600 --> 00:45:59,420 active duty and asked to have his 1086 00:46:04,510 --> 00:46:01,610 identity concealed right now I do 1087 00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:04,520 believe that UFOs exist up until that 1088 00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:07,580 point I've been skeptical now I believe 1089 00:46:11,290 --> 00:46:09,350 there may have been someone else there 1090 00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:11,300 although the Air Force contends that 1091 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,700 there is no audio visual evidence of the 1092 00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:15,920 Bentwaters incidents see it in his 1093 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:17,300 obtain a tape recording made by 1094 00:46:22,210 --> 00:46:19,370 Lieutenant Colonel halt during one of 1095 00:46:24,220 --> 00:46:22,220 the encounters the 20-minute tape cover 1096 00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:24,230 segments of events over a seven hour 1097 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:27,440 period Colonel halt and his team started 1098 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:29,690 searching for the object and found what 1099 00:46:36,250 --> 00:46:31,910 they thought was the same UFO landing 1100 00:46:45,690 --> 00:46:36,260 site reported a day or so earlier 1101 00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:48,640 according to sergeant be the team member 1102 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:50,660 carrying the Geiger counter was selected 1103 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:52,970 by Colonel halt to take photographs in 1104 00:46:58,650 --> 00:46:55,850 radioactivity readings certain nevels 1105 00:47:01,330 --> 00:46:58,660 who is a disaster preparedness 1106 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:01,340 specialist he operated the Geiger 1107 00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:05,330 counter well he was the expert on us so 1108 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:07,460 he carried it and he operated it Colonel 1109 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:09,770 Paul recorded the radioactivity data in 1110 00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:12,410 detail and his official report one of 1111 00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:14,060 those readings was taken from a tree 1112 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:16,030 facing the suspected landing site 1113 00:47:20,650 --> 00:47:18,710 Colonel halt also noticed unusual 1114 00:47:22,270 --> 00:47:20,660 abrasions on the nearby trees and 1115 00:47:39,550 --> 00:47:22,280 ordered sergeant nevels to take 1116 00:48:03,910 --> 00:47:39,560 photographs according to the hall tape 1117 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:06,710 it wasn't about that time that sergeant 1118 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:08,250 being the others apparently saw 1119 00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:24,450 something standing at the landing site 1120 00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:26,670 described by Colonel halt in his report 1121 00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:28,860 behind me is the light from being 1122 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:31,500 offered lighthouse it flashes every five 1123 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:33,950 seconds and is less than ten miles away 1124 00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:37,200 the question remains however how could 1125 00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:39,750 curl Halton his men mistake that light 1126 00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:42,300 on two different nights for something 1127 00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:44,520 radically different critics say that the 1128 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:46,680 light the men saw also appeared in 1129 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,050 roughly five second intervals and so the 1130 00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:50,880 lighthouse beacon must be the source of 1131 00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:53,160 the light here's what happened when we 1132 00:48:58,070 --> 00:48:55,560 synchronized the hall tape noting each 1133 00:49:00,080 --> 00:48:58,080 siding with the lighthouse beacon the 1134 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:00,090 initial sightings at least appear to 1135 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:33,390 yes sergeant B if he and the others 1136 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,890 could have been mistaken I've never once 1137 00:49:40,699 --> 00:49:38,559 seen a white house that moved and this 1138 00:49:43,859 --> 00:49:40,709 object moved because we followed it 1139 00:50:19,169 --> 00:49:43,869 under no no way could that be the orphan 1140 00:50:21,929 --> 00:50:19,179 white house Colonel halt and his men are 1141 00:50:24,209 --> 00:50:21,939 reported observing other objects his 1142 00:50:26,489 --> 00:50:24,219 report describes a red Sun like light 1143 00:50:28,169 --> 00:50:26,499 that threw off glowing particles and 1144 00:50:30,659 --> 00:50:28,179 broke up into five separate white 1145 00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:30,669 objects immediately after they noticed 1146 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:53,400 on the haul tape he and others continue 1147 00:50:58,860 --> 00:50:55,210 to observe the objects for several hours 1148 00:51:01,020 --> 00:50:58,870 and halt noted it in his report Carl 1149 00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:01,030 Hall would not comment officially to CNN 1150 00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,700 about these strange incidents but my 1151 00:51:07,350 --> 00:51:05,680 first impression is that I thought they 1152 00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:07,360 were children because my mind wouldn't 1153 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:08,740 accept what I was saying I thought there 1154 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:11,170 were children in snowsuits Larry Warren 1155 00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:12,970 says he's willing to risk ridicule to 1156 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:15,100 tell about his encounter with what he 1157 00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:16,930 says appeared to be alien being 1158 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:18,790 Larry Warren is today a sales 1159 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:20,530 representative for a medical company 1160 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:22,450 living and working in a typical suburban 1161 00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:24,610 community but a little over four years 1162 00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:26,680 ago as an enlisted man in the US Air 1163 00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:27,040 Force 1164 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,840 he claims he had a most untypical 1165 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:30,880 experience when he came face-to-face 1166 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:32,890 with something he admits he has trouble 1167 00:51:37,410 --> 00:51:35,710 describing one was assigned to security 1168 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:37,420 at the Bentwaters Woodbridge Air Force 1169 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:39,940 Base complex in England he says he was a 1170 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:41,800 witness to the second of two UFO 1171 00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:44,050 encounters on succeeding days in the 1172 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,900 forest separating the two bases and CNN 1173 00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:48,400 has found except for Warren's 1174 00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:50,440 description of the alien beings others 1175 00:51:55,550 --> 00:51:52,360 who were there who have given strikingly 1176 00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,560 similar accounts of the UFOs what was 1177 00:51:59,970 --> 00:51:58,240 predominant a fire first that's what we 1178 00:52:02,640 --> 00:51:59,980 thought it was so there's Monica rather 1179 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:02,650 reddish orange color but ahead of the 1180 00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:06,610 colors moving around in it we saw flying 1181 00:52:10,530 --> 00:52:09,640 objects containing maybe other people or 1182 00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:10,540 another life-form 1183 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:12,520 there were a number of different 1184 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:15,220 phenomena seen a triangular luminous 1185 00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,110 flying object with a red light on top 1186 00:52:22,070 --> 00:52:19,200 and a series of blue lights underneath a 1187 00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:22,080 circular translucent ground-hugging disc 1188 00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:24,550 various lights moving erratically about 1189 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:26,860 the night sky one of which occasionally 1190 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:28,960 beam the shaft of white light downward 1191 00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:32,050 and a luminous pulsating red iron spear 1192 00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:34,180 didn't look solid at all just looked 1193 00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:37,270 like a self-admitted 1194 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:39,150 you know piece of light it was just odd 1195 00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:42,250 I seen it like it was no sooner than 1196 00:52:47,780 --> 00:52:45,720 that in blue Rob not outward or upward 1197 00:52:51,110 --> 00:52:47,790 move down with all these sparkles and 1198 00:52:52,850 --> 00:52:51,120 different colors of light indescribable 1199 00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,860 because it's beyond me how this thing 1200 00:52:59,870 --> 00:52:55,200 this happened we weren't injured by it I 1201 00:53:01,100 --> 00:52:59,880 was very close and it changed and that 1202 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:01,110 was the weirdest thing about it and 1203 00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:02,940 changed into the ship that people had 1204 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:05,100 seen earlier the three cops had fallen 1205 00:53:09,350 --> 00:53:06,990 out their wards description of a 1206 00:53:11,330 --> 00:53:09,360 transformed object appears to match what 1207 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:11,340 three Airmen reportedly saw at the same 1208 00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:12,810 location the night before 1209 00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:14,580 what Warren's story takes an even 1210 00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:23,320 people or whatever you want to call them 1211 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:25,590 coming out baiting come out there were 1212 00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,210 no doors or anything on this ship these 1213 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:29,460 things moved out there were three of 1214 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:31,290 them and they were covered with they had 1215 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:35,310 light around them and it you know they 1216 00:53:42,830 --> 00:53:37,140 came out they stood there and actually 1217 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:42,840 floated to make it more complicated be 1218 00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:47,010 and beings exactly no threatening 1219 00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:48,990 motions were made at us by them they 1220 00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:51,830 didn't communicate with me at all 1221 00:53:59,330 --> 00:53:56,660 our base commander was there Richmond 1222 00:54:01,340 --> 00:53:59,340 Lieutenant Colonel Gordon Williams the 1223 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,350 official air force response is that 1224 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:03,180 Williams now a general did not witness 1225 00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:06,090 the alleged incident CNN has contacted 1226 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:08,040 two Airmen who Warren says will present 1227 00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,050 that night both say that something 1228 00:54:14,540 --> 00:54:12,000 happened but neither confirm nor deny 1229 00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:14,550 Warren's story a noncommissioned officer 1230 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,440 who helped conduct a subsequent 1231 00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:18,720 investigation of one of the reported 1232 00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:21,300 landing sites says his superiors seem to 1233 00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:22,980 have little interest in pursuing it 1234 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:27,300 things seem to be clamped down quite 1235 00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:29,850 suddenly and nobody was talking to 1236 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:32,040 anybody else about it and when I tried 1237 00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:35,310 to find or ask specific questions about 1238 00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:39,270 things nobody knew anything 1239 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:41,220 Larry costaud is a full-time police 1240 00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:43,710 detective he is also the co-author of a 1241 00:54:47,310 --> 00:54:46,020 book which uses government documents to 1242 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:47,320 support its argument 1243 00:54:52,050 --> 00:54:49,210 that there has been an official cover-up 1244 00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:52,060 of the UFO experience he says military 1245 00:54:55,230 --> 00:54:53,950 personnel have good reason to be 1246 00:54:57,450 --> 00:54:55,240 reluctant to talk about their 1247 00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:57,460 experiences the reason for them not 1248 00:55:02,790 --> 00:54:59,410 talking is usually better been spreadin 1249 00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:02,800 threatened or they fall under the 1250 00:55:08,610 --> 00:55:06,160 regulation Jane up on 46 which talks 1251 00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:08,620 about if anybody talks about UFO events 1252 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:10,510 that have been reported in the military 1253 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:13,090 they're subject to find loss of pension 1254 00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:15,400 and retirement every other thing and 1255 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,420 even jail time 1256 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:18,880 CNN began asking the Air Force for 1257 00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:21,010 information about the Beth waters UFO 1258 00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:22,510 incident six months ago 1259 00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:24,700 throughout the Air Force has been slow 1260 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:27,550 to respond and when it did reply the 1261 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:29,890 answer was usually quote unknown input 1262 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:32,290 when some cases apparently misleading 1263 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:34,690 for example when CNN asked are there any 1264 00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:36,910 photographs tape recordings videotapes 1265 00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,800 drawings or descriptions of any kind in 1266 00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:40,960 Air Force files the official US Air 1267 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:43,630 Force reply was quote there was no audio 1268 00:55:48,540 --> 00:55:46,270 visual documentation done end quote 1269 00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:48,550 however as we reported earlier in this 1270 00:55:53,330 --> 00:55:50,860 series there was an audio tape made 1271 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:53,340 during the second of two UFO encounters 1272 00:55:58,410 --> 00:55:56,410 CNN has also found an officer who says 1273 00:56:00,840 --> 00:55:58,420 he drove the base commander to a waiting 1274 00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:00,850 airplane to deliver what he was told was 1275 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:18,420 and to the pilot the canopy closes in 1276 00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,770 the aircraft of all I have to work with 1277 00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:22,720 headed and he said Germany 1278 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:24,760 Larry Fawcett says he thinks the Air 1279 00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:26,290 Force could be involved in a cover-up 1280 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:28,120 when they do telling the public for 1281 00:56:31,770 --> 00:56:29,770 thirty years there's no such thing as 1282 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:31,780 UFOs how can they reverse themselves now 1283 00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:33,610 so there is and they did mind covering 1284 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:35,740 it up if it is a cover-up than the 1285 00:56:39,790 --> 00:56:37,330 American public may never know what 1286 00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:39,800 those Airmen saw at Bentwaters 1287 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:41,960 if they were really keystone cops who 1288 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:44,089 are hallucinating as one critic suggests 1289 00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:45,770 than one of the national security 1290 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:47,510 implications of those same Airmen 1291 00:56:50,770 --> 00:56:49,250 guarding a strategically important 1292 00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:50,780 airbase where nuclear weapons are 1293 00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:52,819 reportedly stored if they weren't 1294 00:56:55,930 --> 00:56:54,230 hallucinating than one of the 1295 00:56:58,510 --> 00:56:55,940 implications of what they actually did 1296 00:57:00,370 --> 00:56:58,520 see when CNN recently asked the Air 1297 00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:00,380 Force about the possible existence of 1298 00:57:04,839 --> 00:57:02,630 movie film of the Bentwaters UFO the 1299 00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:04,849 official Air Force response was the 1300 00:57:08,770 --> 00:57:06,200 United States Air Force stopped 1301 00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:08,780 investigating UFOs in 1969 1302 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:11,480 this is Chuck de Caro CNN's special 1303 00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:16,730 assignments thank you that's what do you 1304 00:57:24,130 --> 00:57:22,160 think guys that's something that a lot 1305 00:57:27,099 --> 00:57:24,140 of people don't want you to see but the 1306 00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:27,109 history more was out back then and it's 1307 00:58:01,540 --> 00:57:59,210 it's all gone now I was like sure I was 1308 00:58:06,590 --> 00:58:01,550 yeah I was kind of show another YouTube 1309 00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:06,600 okay for now yeah what you got out of 1310 00:58:10,580 --> 00:58:08,430 there is and I think you may be here a 1311 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:10,590 little surprised is that we're verifying 1312 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:14,610 these are offices verifying film people 1313 00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:16,770 wouldn't confirm or deny what I was 1314 00:58:21,590 --> 00:58:18,300 saying it's easy to say no well that 1315 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:21,600 says yes doesn't it there's a lot of 1316 00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:23,130 things in people that you never have 1317 00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:24,840 never spoken again that was Captain Mike 1318 00:58:31,130 --> 00:58:28,140 Morocco that drove Gordon wings on the 1319 00:58:33,590 --> 00:58:31,140 film so it's not me saying it and it's 1320 00:58:36,170 --> 00:58:33,600 it's it's been out there forever and 1321 00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:36,180 fact CNN one is for are saying where 1322 00:58:40,550 --> 00:58:38,820 nuclear weapons are and yep certain 1323 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:40,560 people still don't saying that makes it 1324 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:42,870 defense significant where this stuff 1325 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:45,090 should be really pissing you folks off 1326 00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:47,730 even though it's a long time ago you 1327 00:58:52,340 --> 00:58:50,670 will lie to about the nuclear weapons 1328 00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:52,350 and you have these beams coming down 1329 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:55,110 that hurt our weapons by the way we had 1330 00:58:59,330 --> 00:58:57,570 containment teams come in and these 1331 00:59:01,760 --> 00:58:59,340 weapons there were a number of women's 1332 00:59:04,300 --> 00:59:01,770 record useless on that basis and 1333 00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:04,310 elsewhere wasn't it of the book yep and 1334 00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:06,780 so that was a factor too and this is 1335 00:59:11,690 --> 00:59:09,110 something you should get mad about but 1336 00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:11,700 and out there were funny for a long time 1337 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,220 let me say that right yet he said oh 1338 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:16,980 rendered useless could they have been 1339 00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:19,770 actually dangerous you know I don't know 1340 00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:21,630 I don't know I saw a containment teams 1341 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:23,160 come they come in and they clear 1342 00:59:28,070 --> 00:59:25,890 everything but there were the Canadians 1343 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,080 thanks to them on the classified UFO 1344 00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:30,960 Declassified through other entities 1345 00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:32,790 found out that we had a hundred tactical 1346 00:59:38,109 --> 00:59:33,420 nuclear 1347 00:59:42,049 --> 00:59:38,119 Bombay's at that time and that I believe 1348 00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:42,059 60 of them 16 is 60 I'm forgetting that 1349 00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,299 one is too many were rendered 1350 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:47,520 ineffective and that came through an 1351 00:59:54,109 --> 00:59:50,040 outside body through the Canadians about 1352 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:54,119 our base and structure of nukes at all I 1353 00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,250 wasn't involved in that end of anything 1354 01:00:02,539 --> 00:59:58,640 but this is your country I mean would it 1355 01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:02,549 this is real stuff now these guys were 1356 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,680 all highly trained people I when I was 1357 01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:05,520 trained guy too 1358 01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:08,910 and none of them are lying and they're 1359 01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:10,200 all counting a lot of them were still on 1360 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:11,910 active duty but the people you see now 1361 01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:13,680 on the History Channel of all the time 1362 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:16,740 none of them were even around yet these 1363 01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:19,170 guys are just telling it like it was yes 1364 01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,910 not everything's there and then Dhoni is 1365 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:23,280 easy and I've noticed if CNN saying 1366 01:00:29,059 --> 01:00:26,730 alien being I never said it but it's 1367 01:00:31,579 --> 01:00:29,069 that's what the press would do then it 1368 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:31,589 well if it's not us there's an alien I 1369 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:33,930 don't know that's putting it too much in 1370 01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:37,290 the pot don't know but I'm not the only 1371 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:39,720 one obviously saying we saw vehicle scan 1372 01:00:43,460 --> 01:00:41,250 people or another life-form 1373 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:43,470 when reg Julius is saying and here's 1374 01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,210 another thing over here which I'm so 1375 01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:47,520 tired of it was a big rumor mill it was 1376 01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:49,470 in the pubs it was this and that you 1377 01:00:54,740 --> 01:00:51,270 just thought regularly is saying things 1378 01:00:57,740 --> 01:00:54,750 were clapping down no one was talking to 1379 01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:57,750 anybody else to include me that's 1380 01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:00,960 another myth there was no rumors at all 1381 01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,260 not here except some cities seen some 1382 01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:06,480 things and talked about it but but none 1383 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:09,780 of us were mm-hmm but it's funny that I 1384 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:12,480 had my mother's letter I'd Center which 1385 01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:16,770 is the only now the officially first 1386 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:21,390 written record of his events but I even 1387 01:01:25,730 --> 01:01:23,970 when we did this I was still in a box of 1388 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:25,740 my mother's I just never thought of it I 1389 01:01:31,819 --> 01:01:28,770 never thought I'd write a book the book 1390 01:01:34,579 --> 01:01:31,829 so in 1984 nets in your I met my 1391 01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:34,589 co-author Peter loved that hi how are 1392 01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:36,569 you was a conference with Allen Hynek I 1393 01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:37,260 knew Allen hi 1394 01:01:43,070 --> 01:01:40,920 anyone you named jacques ballet John 1395 01:01:45,410 --> 01:01:43,080 keel I knew real I was a miserable old 1396 01:01:47,570 --> 01:01:45,420 guy that guy you're gonna have a Cariah 1397 01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:47,580 stitch in I've done gigs of have you 1398 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:48,870 name them I know them all 1399 01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:50,610 and a lot of her dead now man I've been 1400 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:53,670 around a long time with this stuff and I 1401 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:55,650 was one of the upstairs with Stan floor 1402 01:01:58,550 --> 01:01:56,970 remember this we're at the Congress 1403 01:02:00,740 --> 01:01:58,560 Stanton Friedman he's like everyone's 1404 01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:00,750 would spend you know but Stan's I 1405 01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:02,310 remember he was hitting on these girls I 1406 01:02:06,730 --> 01:02:04,590 think it ladies women he's like you know 1407 01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:06,740 stan has to stand beard going on forever 1408 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:09,480 and he's I just walked by Anna Michael I 1409 01:02:14,090 --> 01:02:11,850 know that guy from that UFO movie in the 1410 01:02:16,610 --> 01:02:14,100 century and he goes have you seen my 1411 01:02:20,060 --> 01:02:16,620 latest film to these girls I'm like damn 1412 01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:20,070 I got to know Stan real well and over 1413 01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:21,900 the years and he's you know he does what 1414 01:02:28,580 --> 01:02:24,720 Stan does and I've been in a room in a 1415 01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:28,590 TV show New Orleans and we had pizza and 1416 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:30,390 I said we're going on the in theater and 1417 01:02:34,220 --> 01:02:32,370 go filming thing would enough stand what 1418 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:34,230 the Domino's we came back in the pizzas 1419 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:38,400 wrong in theaters and he comes out ya 1420 01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:41,090 know what attack know what're we did 1421 01:02:56,170 --> 01:02:51,510 boxes there and I'm like you know I 1422 01:02:58,700 --> 01:02:56,180 don't see evidence of no empty boxes so 1423 01:03:01,460 --> 01:02:58,710 characters I could write a whole book on 1424 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:01,470 the characters I've met Irie man Peter 1425 01:03:08,810 --> 01:03:05,810 Robbins in 1987 my co-author on this 1426 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:08,820 book which we are proud of this is the 1427 01:03:13,850 --> 01:03:11,730 updated one and it is the only one to 1428 01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,860 date still written by a witness not the 1429 01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:15,900 new one that was written by Nick poem I 1430 01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:19,680 wrote my own stuff Peter wrote it and it 1431 01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:21,350 was 11 years about a hundred grand 1432 01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:24,480 between us of money research travel with 1433 01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:26,310 this that the other if you're pulling a 1434 01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:27,660 hoax or a scam you're not gonna be 1435 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:29,400 dropping your own cash on it it kind of 1436 01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:30,690 defeats it doesn't it 1437 01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:32,670 and we never thought we'd get there 1438 01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:34,350 we've had all kind of mountains my met 1439 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:37,470 Peter I spoke for MUFON at the National 1440 01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:39,930 for the big conference at the American 1441 01:03:44,450 --> 01:03:43,200 University in 97 I had to do a paper and 1442 01:03:46,849 --> 01:03:44,460 I'm really not to do a paper 1443 01:03:49,370 --> 01:03:46,859 kind of guy but I had to do it and I 1444 01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:49,380 stood there and I got to stop Midway I 1445 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:51,150 got to political it was young and kind 1446 01:03:55,579 --> 01:03:53,730 of you know and I had Walt Andres it was 1447 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:55,589 they had a MUFON at that time he's long 1448 01:03:58,490 --> 01:03:56,010 gone 1449 01:04:00,380 --> 01:03:58,500 I think he's deceased must be and he 1450 01:04:03,170 --> 01:04:00,390 comes up and told me to stop and I'm 1451 01:04:04,579 --> 01:04:03,180 like what and this is like seven eight 1452 01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:04,589 hundred people but what are you saying 1453 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:07,080 that any system must stop it was like 1454 01:04:11,570 --> 01:04:09,690 Nixon or something I go listen I said 1455 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:11,580 ladies and gentlemen can't talk I said 1456 01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:13,050 I'm being censored by the same people 1457 01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:14,910 that [\h__\h] about government censorship 1458 01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:18,990 so I will go outside I'm alone and if 1459 01:04:24,620 --> 01:04:20,520 anyone wants to hear what I gotta say 1460 01:04:27,290 --> 01:04:24,630 come on with me I emptied the room so I 1461 01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:27,300 was not I was enemy number one for MUFON 1462 01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:32,460 never worked for them again absolutely 1463 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:36,270 true yeah yeah you know he was I guess 1464 01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:38,010 was nice then like like I don't know 1465 01:04:42,829 --> 01:04:40,260 what I had crossed MUFON policy was you 1466 01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:42,839 couldn't talk about being he couldn't do 1467 01:04:48,109 --> 01:04:44,760 this back then guys I mean the world's 1468 01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:48,119 so different now you just didn't do it 1469 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:51,359 and but I did it and I you know and I 1470 01:04:55,070 --> 01:04:53,010 know what you were gonna get for doing 1471 01:04:57,050 --> 01:04:55,080 it so I met this little fella again the 1472 01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:57,060 hauling is highly I walked back in and 1473 01:05:01,220 --> 01:04:59,010 Whitley stream it was there the reason I 1474 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:01,230 wrote a book is I was misrepresenting a 1475 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:03,810 whole bunch of books by 85 about three 1476 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:06,690 or four and Whitley Strieber was 1477 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:07,890 sniffing around to write the book 1478 01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:09,570 communion he was known as what writing 1479 01:05:17,089 --> 01:05:11,430 the wolf and the howling although all 1480 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:17,099 the scary war day all those bit and so 1481 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:18,480 Whitley I got to know a little bit 1482 01:05:27,410 --> 01:05:25,290 because I did okay and came up the title 1483 01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:27,420 and started it and I had a different guy 1484 01:05:32,780 --> 01:05:30,140 as a co-author and he was not a 1485 01:05:35,030 --> 01:05:32,790 experiencer he didn't live it I couldn't 1486 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:35,040 relate to a lot of it yeah I can 1487 01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:36,690 understand and you're lucky if you have 1488 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,150 it but I wanted a second voice that at 1489 01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:42,000 least was touched by the experience I 1490 01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:44,310 met this guy Peter and he goes oh we met 1491 01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:46,710 years back in Westchester I didn't 1492 01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:48,150 remember it at that time it was 1493 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:50,310 basically a hi Hawaii and he looked at 1494 01:05:56,450 --> 01:05:52,050 me and said thinking good luck with this 1495 01:06:00,380 --> 01:05:56,460 guy and now we met and that began our 28 1496 01:06:02,089 --> 01:06:00,390 years ago we started and we I had him 1497 01:06:04,370 --> 01:06:02,099 lined up at me I knew he was gonna be my 1498 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:04,380 co-author before he knew it I didn't 1499 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:06,330 even know if he knew how to write I just 1500 01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,570 knew it I is the title of that book I 1501 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:11,520 knew all kind of things and I knew it 1502 01:06:17,210 --> 01:06:14,010 would get published it took 11 you know 1503 01:06:18,620 --> 01:06:17,220 nine a half years with us to and if I 1504 01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:18,630 didn't have that guy would never have 1505 01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:20,220 completed this I went to what divorce 1506 01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:23,270 doing that my first one done two and 1507 01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:26,550 we've gone through everything but I will 1508 01:06:32,329 --> 01:06:29,510 tell you at the end of the day 1509 01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:32,339 revolution has become whatever it is 1510 01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:35,160 more than me it's not about me but I'm 1511 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:37,440 very proud the fact that I was the one 1512 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:39,930 to kick the lid off the can no one else 1513 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:42,810 did I did I paid the price for doing it 1514 01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:44,490 but I knew there would be one because it 1515 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:45,960 was a real thing and it involved 1516 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:48,570 government governments it's an 1517 01:06:55,089 --> 01:06:50,730 international incident it's not a 1518 01:06:57,980 --> 01:06:55,099 lighthouse it cost cost lives it cost 1519 01:07:01,099 --> 01:06:57,990 damage with all of our families it's 1520 01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:01,109 like a rock and a lake in the rings it 1521 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:04,230 is the great big ugly that's what I call 1522 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:06,570 it it's nothing nice about these events 1523 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:09,330 it's not fun I see people I love that 1524 01:07:16,609 --> 01:07:12,890 case not a case there's nothing to love 1525 01:07:18,260 --> 01:07:16,619 it's not a case is lives there's a 1526 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:18,270 phenomena at work but it gets 1527 01:07:23,810 --> 01:07:20,490 overshadowed by all the dark things the 1528 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:23,820 federales yours included did us with 1529 01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:26,220 impunity our base let us get thrown to 1530 01:07:31,310 --> 01:07:29,280 the Sharks and outside entities to deal 1531 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:31,320 with this the civilians do not 1532 01:07:35,690 --> 01:07:33,810 government CIA this that's why the 1533 01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:35,700 government say we have nothing to do 1534 01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:37,800 with them you know they farm it out the 1535 01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:41,380 slants its land operations contractors 1536 01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:44,070 that's who contains this stuff fronts 1537 01:07:47,610 --> 01:07:46,510 not you're not looking at when you see 1538 01:07:49,820 --> 01:07:47,620 it I think them 1539 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:49,830 it's that thing over there with the sign 1540 01:07:55,950 --> 01:07:53,410 Burger King but an anti Burger King it's 1541 01:07:57,930 --> 01:07:55,960 so wrapped up and black project black 1542 01:08:01,230 --> 01:07:57,940 money black drum whatever 1543 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:01,240 it's the biggest secret in the world it 1544 01:08:06,570 --> 01:08:04,210 was control that losing controls so 1545 01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:06,580 desperate now the world's so different 1546 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:10,180 from them days so different so anyway 1547 01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:12,610 how the better note I'll just show you 1548 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:14,860 one thing and I think I can close it 1549 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:17,290 with that but let me two seconds forgive 1550 01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:19,570 the power on my version of power ones 1551 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:21,100 you're lucky I don't have like smoke 1552 01:08:38,650 --> 01:08:23,770 things to send up this is my next 1553 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:40,990 I said I wrote this book I can't see 1554 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:45,890 over so there's like Kurt Vonnegut in 1555 01:08:49,450 --> 01:08:47,690 person the author told me because kid 1556 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:49,460 there's no magic and getting look right 1557 01:09:19,180 --> 01:08:58,130 there writing books the magic mister can 1558 01:09:22,420 --> 01:09:19,190 you give me any advice I said Liberace 1559 01:09:26,050 --> 01:09:22,430 I don't know girl right but understand 1560 01:09:28,030 --> 01:09:26,060 me uh I hear you but the as time went on 1561 01:09:32,230 --> 01:09:28,040 I was very honored I've done a lot of 1562 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:32,240 things you know done most of the UN all 1563 01:09:36,430 --> 01:09:34,010 kind of things I know senators you're 1564 01:09:38,860 --> 01:09:36,440 looking at the only person whistleblower 1565 01:09:41,890 --> 01:09:38,870 in this subject this country my country 1566 01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:41,900 anywhere that has had as United States 1567 01:09:47,710 --> 01:09:45,040 passport suspended for doing just this 1568 01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:47,720 it's never happened to anyone and I want 1569 01:09:51,460 --> 01:09:49,670 to thank the UFO community in America 1570 01:09:53,650 --> 01:09:51,470 when that happened the 90s before book 1571 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:53,660 came out it was once I started saying we 1572 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:55,490 had news because she still won't hear 1573 01:09:59,560 --> 01:09:57,770 other witnesses say I got sick of the 1574 01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:59,570 [\h__\h] no defense indefinite I said 1575 01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:01,040 well we had nukes and I did that right 1576 01:10:05,980 --> 01:10:03,230 Michelle field here I'm not even sorry 1577 01:10:08,350 --> 01:10:05,990 and I lost my passport got suspended 1578 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:08,360 eventually it was removed and it took 1579 01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:11,570 you know the Attorney General is the 1580 01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:13,490 Attorney General of the United States is 1581 01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,030 the top law man in the land we're very 1582 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:19,280 lucky after within a year it kept me 1583 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:20,810 from coming to England because they had 1584 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:25,730 things lined up it kept me it took Peter 1585 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:28,370 got us in touch with Ramsey Clark and 1586 01:10:32,260 --> 01:10:30,320 I'm Zack arc was Robert Kennedy's number 1587 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:32,270 two Attorney General under John Kennedy 1588 01:10:38,740 --> 01:10:36,250 of the United States at a local lawyer 1589 01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:38,750 Kennedy's assassinated he is Lyndon 1590 01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:40,550 Johnson's number-one lawyer in the land 1591 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:43,550 of America brands at Clark Nixon comes 1592 01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:47,090 in in 68 different Republicans different 1593 01:10:52,060 --> 01:10:49,100 things but Ramsey Clark was so respected 1594 01:10:54,490 --> 01:10:52,070 he remained Richard Nixon's Attorney 1595 01:10:56,350 --> 01:10:54,500 General for his first term the Ramsey 1596 01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:56,360 car came out against the Vietnam War and 1597 01:11:01,600 --> 01:10:59,090 all these things Ramsey Clark got me my 1598 01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:01,610 passport back because the only way you 1599 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:03,440 can lose a passport in America is if you 1600 01:11:08,020 --> 01:11:04,880 were convicted to tell them you don't 1601 01:11:10,150 --> 01:11:08,030 have a right to want right class a felon 1602 01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,160 then you don't know and this happened to 1603 01:11:14,860 --> 01:11:12,400 mate and has never happened to anyone 1604 01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,870 that happened to mate and the reasons 1605 01:11:20,290 --> 01:11:16,880 were for speaking about sensitive 1606 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:20,300 defense issues in a public forum on 1607 01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:24,650 foreign soil this is a fact in real and 1608 01:11:29,380 --> 01:11:26,870 I if I was in America right now and I 1609 01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:29,390 saw some old school UF ologists I would 1610 01:11:34,750 --> 01:11:31,910 thank them for not doing a [\h__\h] thing 1611 01:11:36,460 --> 01:11:34,760 about it or even backing me or standing 1612 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,470 with me just like that picture I showed 1613 01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:37,760 you earlier they all ran like 1614 01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:41,390 schoolgirls so stand alone baby I hadn't 1615 01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:43,910 do to bad doing that did I but I've had 1616 01:11:49,170 --> 01:11:45,800 great friends and support around me also 1617 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:49,180 I am stronger than my enemies clearly 1618 01:11:53,890 --> 01:11:51,410 but I want to show you something and 1619 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:53,900 just end on a positive note you know 1620 01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:55,850 last week if you follow this stuff was 1621 01:12:00,110 --> 01:11:57,960 not a very positive 1622 01:12:01,970 --> 01:12:00,120 for certain people were my old Charles 1623 01:12:05,090 --> 01:12:01,980 Hall Pam I wanna make a Stampin Up kind 1624 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:05,100 of halt real quick he was a nice guy on 1625 01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:10,050 the base he was very open officer and we 1626 01:12:14,450 --> 01:12:12,120 have had a dynamic I got a stocking that 1627 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:14,460 out his name's on it I caused hell for a 1628 01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:16,170 lot of people I didn't know it but I 1629 01:12:20,690 --> 01:12:18,450 found out last year how much I stopped 1630 01:12:23,390 --> 01:12:20,700 people from progressing to general all 1631 01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:23,400 kind of things because I come with 1632 01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:25,710 Elizabeth didn't intend to do that I was 1633 01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:27,480 you I didn't think of the cause and 1634 01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,120 effect so some people really you know 1635 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:33,120 pissed off still you know and that I 1636 01:12:37,210 --> 01:12:33,930 would be too 1637 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:37,220 what's this little sob doing this but 1638 01:12:41,450 --> 01:12:39,570 and there's things I don't know about 1639 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,460 this I've put my finger on the bees 1640 01:12:46,850 --> 01:12:43,440 nests which certain people I call would 1641 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:46,860 no more the other day he was a very I'm 1642 01:12:51,170 --> 01:12:49,170 gonna say this and I'll be different 1643 01:12:53,780 --> 01:12:51,180 than maybe what you were there a few 1644 01:12:57,050 --> 01:12:53,790 others when I was there I met Colonel 1645 01:12:58,910 --> 01:12:57,060 halt he was a nice and accessible as an 1646 01:13:02,090 --> 01:12:58,920 officer he liked to hang around security 1647 01:13:04,190 --> 01:13:02,100 forces he wasn't nasty baby he liked to 1648 01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:04,200 hang around as he was like the cops and 1649 01:13:11,690 --> 01:13:08,220 it's very fair guy and I remember that 1650 01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:11,700 about him that our dynamic you know 1651 01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:13,860 obviously this has changed that I'm not 1652 01:13:17,450 --> 01:13:15,510 going to go into anything like that I 1653 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:17,460 will say I respect his service in 1654 01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:20,010 Vietnam I respect the fact that he was 1655 01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,300 very open kind of guy then I am so sorry 1656 01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:29,280 because it hurts the overview not didn't 1657 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:31,110 hurt Lowry it hurts this because we're 1658 01:13:33,980 --> 01:13:32,370 not the thing we're thinking about look 1659 01:13:36,260 --> 01:13:33,990 who's there was about the who again in 1660 01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,270 the schoolyard and we're not thinking of 1661 01:13:42,110 --> 01:13:38,400 the bigger picture a breach of your 1662 01:13:46,490 --> 01:13:42,120 national security in your country by 1663 01:13:49,460 --> 01:13:46,500 argument annuals and an adverse effect 1664 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:49,470 on nuclear weapons secretly housed in 1665 01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:51,930 your country and adversely affected by 1666 01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:56,190 an unknown from the hominin and you told 1667 01:13:59,600 --> 01:13:58,110 it's a lighthouse and so this is the 1668 01:14:00,979 --> 01:13:59,610 that's the tragedy the interpersonal 1669 01:14:02,690 --> 01:14:00,989 thing that goes on 1670 01:14:04,729 --> 01:14:02,700 and revolution but I guess that's how 1671 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:04,739 this is all design let them eat each 1672 01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:05,250 other 1673 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:07,230 meanwhile the people that do pull the 1674 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:11,340 strings laughing they go works every 1675 01:14:14,660 --> 01:14:11,760 time 1676 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:14,670 they know the psychological studies and 1677 01:14:19,190 --> 01:14:16,770 we're all getting older now I mean he 1678 01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:19,200 had us all we were out there now no like 1679 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:20,480 Roswell they're all dead 1680 01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:23,010 we're alive but I'm the youngest an 1681 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:27,540 event of 54 you know it's gonna be one 1682 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:29,130 of those dominoes and God knows what 1683 01:14:34,250 --> 01:14:31,890 this will look like in 30 years who 1684 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:34,260 knows but you have you should get mad 1685 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:37,290 about membership for every breweries not 1686 01:14:40,670 --> 01:14:38,730 because the lengths make us someone says 1687 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:40,680 bad things about me or this guy in it 1688 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:42,810 really about what happened I think it's 1689 01:14:45,530 --> 01:14:43,890 pretty clear to you it wasn't a 1690 01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:45,540 lighthouse at this point because you've 1691 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:47,460 heard British people also were affected 1692 01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:49,530 by this insane thing I just want to show 1693 01:14:54,290 --> 01:14:51,830 you thing get to just shut up and just 1694 01:14:56,510 --> 01:14:54,300 drink your beer I used to go to a bar 1695 01:14:58,100 --> 01:14:56,520 called Sandy's how was their t-shirt 1696 01:14:59,300 --> 01:14:58,110 just shut up and drink your beer on the 1697 01:15:03,590 --> 01:14:59,310 back anyway 1698 01:15:06,530 --> 01:15:03,600 I in 2001 I was ours to enjoy plenty and 1699 01:15:10,010 --> 01:15:06,540 gentle torogai fooling around faces a 1700 01:15:12,350 --> 01:15:10,020 lot of them guy said we've come forward 1701 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:12,360 because of your book this book I wasn't 1702 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:12,690 on it 1703 01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:16,050 didn't know how the machine worked last 1704 01:15:19,090 --> 01:15:17,520 and then open that's why you were able 1705 01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:19,100 to do what you did you didn't think 1706 01:15:24,170 --> 01:15:22,110 kamikaze Wharram at the end there I was 1707 01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:24,180 invited at DC I lived here my son was 1708 01:15:28,459 --> 01:15:26,520 six months old and it was the honor of 1709 01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:28,469 my life to stand at the National Press 1710 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:31,110 Club I was the first one machine guy to 1711 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:33,090 do so it was the largest press 1712 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:35,610 attendance in the history of the MPC in 1713 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:38,640 DC even President speaking at it and the 1714 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:40,110 press didn't come and shoot and leave 1715 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:43,050 they stayed for four hours and the 1716 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:44,930 elements on the moon is at night nothing 1717 01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:47,850 BBC everything we had guys stringers and 1718 01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:50,880 tears nothing that night huge 1719 01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:54,630 suppression I want to end it I would not 1720 01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:56,070 have been brought to the jaw by like 1721 01:15:58,890 --> 01:15:56,590 mice 1722 01:16:00,690 --> 01:15:58,900 without going through this class without 1723 01:16:02,940 --> 01:16:00,700 being stationed in England with if the 1724 01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:02,950 life is it's a long license boy have you 1725 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:06,430 ended up here touring this book in 97 1726 01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:08,410 times bestseller number seven in England 1727 01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:10,630 you know we're over John like air at 1728 01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:14,830 that time rank amateurs like us get 1729 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:16,630 Liverpool I love Liverpool the publicist 1730 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:20,170 says they didn't even read their kid and 1731 01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:21,760 I said get us something a Liverpool so 1732 01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:24,550 we got some paranormal gig my ex-wife 1733 01:16:29,610 --> 01:16:26,710 has taken tickets on the door I met her 1734 01:16:32,670 --> 01:16:29,620 I got food and long relationship long 1735 01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:32,680 story short without this I will tell 1736 01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:34,720 what happened to me I would not have my 1737 01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:37,030 son I think anyone we know means a lot 1738 01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:42,480 to me and this is my we lobby for a week 1739 01:16:50,490 --> 01:16:45,910 congressmen and Senators in DC we have 1740 01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:50,500 many conferences in Congress everything 1741 01:16:55,230 --> 01:16:52,960 this is Mike just we had brief ups we're 1742 01:16:56,700 --> 01:16:55,240 a big long table the guy remember Hill 1743 01:17:00,570 --> 01:16:56,710 Street Blues the Cheryl well chief 1744 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:00,580 Daniels just the host I forgot who was 1745 01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:01,930 there I'm like oh yeah yeah I remember 1746 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:04,180 that I thought that was big lines in the 1747 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:06,370 base this is Maya and we just had a 1748 01:17:10,980 --> 01:17:08,470 brief up just introduce ourselves to the 1749 01:17:12,810 --> 01:17:10,990 press and I'd like to end with this it's 1750 01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:12,820 I would never change a thing with what 1751 01:17:18,270 --> 01:17:16,300 I've done ever I do a few things 1752 01:17:20,220 --> 01:17:18,280 different but I still wouldn't I don't 1753 01:17:22,290 --> 01:17:20,230 think I did have bad a job but this was 1754 01:17:26,010 --> 01:17:22,300 my testimony and make just before 1755 01:17:27,810 --> 01:17:26,020 September 11 happened in America I was 1756 01:17:29,790 --> 01:17:27,820 living here then but may I show that to 1757 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:29,800 you would you mind yeah that's very 1758 01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:32,410 brief and this is I met every word and I 1759 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:33,790 would do it again price could you hit 1760 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:36,370 the Lights right yeah or my friend and 1761 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:39,550 I'm quite friend you know I just whose 1762 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:44,970 good morning ladies and gentlemen and 1763 01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:47,590 members of the press I my name is larry 1764 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:51,400 warrant 20 years ago in 1980 I was a 1765 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:53,260 security specialist assigned to RAF 1766 01:18:00,419 --> 01:17:57,130 Bentwaters Woodbridge NATO Air Force 1767 01:18:03,740 --> 01:18:00,429 facilities in suffolk east anglia i had 1768 01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,750 a secret security clearance i goaded 1769 01:18:07,919 --> 01:18:05,920 backline nuclear weapons that were 1770 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,929 stored there at the time I mean without 1771 01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:09,520 the knowledge of the people of Great 1772 01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:13,960 Britain I went through its a portion of 1773 01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:18,640 a 20 night UFO event where objects made 1774 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,520 incursions over OWS a fire kick 1775 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:23,920 pencil-thin beams of light into them and 1776 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:26,050 adversely affected the Ordnance possibly 1777 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:28,570 these objects were on the ground on two 1778 01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:31,030 different nights potentially there was 1779 01:18:36,150 --> 01:18:33,160 another life-form scene this is an 1780 01:18:38,610 --> 01:18:36,160 unpopular truth these events were 1781 01:18:40,650 --> 01:18:38,620 extreme defense significance to not only 1782 01:18:42,540 --> 01:18:40,660 her majesty's government that this 1783 01:18:46,050 --> 01:18:42,550 government as well and they are still 1784 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,060 shrouded in secrecy they're very complex 1785 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:48,400 they were very fast this is more about a 1786 01:18:54,150 --> 01:18:51,570 human rights issue than just a UFO issue 1787 01:18:56,820 --> 01:18:54,160 20 years ago this room would be empty I 1788 01:18:58,680 --> 01:18:56,830 see a trend in history this is history 1789 01:19:01,290 --> 01:18:58,690 in motion but unfortunately its history 1790 01:19:04,010 --> 01:19:01,300 with the security classification I would 1791 01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:04,020 be more than honored to swear under oath 1792 01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:07,390 that I went experienced what I did I saw 1793 01:19:12,689 --> 01:19:09,790 what I saw these events produced not 1794 01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:12,699 only after numerous denials by this 1795 01:19:16,770 --> 01:19:15,310 government a memo by Lieutenant Colonel 1796 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:16,780 Charles halt our deputy base commander 1797 01:19:21,450 --> 01:19:19,090 which reads like science fiction that 1798 01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:21,460 also produced years later an on-site 1799 01:19:27,090 --> 01:19:24,600 audio tape he made as these objects 1800 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:27,100 perform their feats and did what they 1801 01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:30,010 did and violated airspace these events 1802 01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:31,900 are of extreme depends significance I 1803 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:33,790 hope my brothers and aunts that went 1804 01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:34,330 through these 1805 01:19:38,430 --> 01:19:36,160 guess we'll begin an immunity at some 1806 01:19:40,020 --> 01:19:38,440 point and be able to join us here it is 1807 01:19:43,710 --> 01:19:40,030 an honor to share the stage with all of 1808 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:43,720 these people people and I think we're 1809 01:19:46,530 --> 01:19:45,610 all our children my son Dennis god bless 1810 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:46,540 you son 1811 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:49,510 we can change the world you're heroes 1812 01:20:34,550 --> 01:19:51,370 for being here also and I will testify 1813 01:20:42,210 --> 01:20:38,280 decoy missiles came in in 1982 after I 1814 01:20:45,210 --> 01:20:42,220 was left the base this is something not 1815 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:45,220 really my area I saw Peter Robbins deals 1816 01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:47,650 with his weather modification things 1817 01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:49,720 which was and that's more his area of 1818 01:20:52,980 --> 01:20:51,580 interest unfortunately we found a lot of 1819 01:20:54,780 --> 01:20:52,990 witnesses and if you read left to these 1820 01:20:56,490 --> 01:20:54,790 gate and read interviews with them it 1821 01:20:58,740 --> 01:20:56,500 saw similar things that look like what 1822 01:21:00,930 --> 01:20:58,750 they call cloud busters could I put my 1823 01:21:03,810 --> 01:21:00,940 mark on it I couldn't but I saw those 1824 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:03,820 things the weapons the missiles that 1825 01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:05,650 were dummy missiles on Woodbridge not 1826 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:07,480 Bentwaters by the way I saw what I saw 1827 01:21:13,050 --> 01:21:10,810 on bent wards and I don't know what they 1828 01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:13,060 were but they sure matched similarly 1829 01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:16,030 what Peter showed me was a cloud bust 1830 01:21:20,130 --> 01:21:17,140 all right I didn't know what the hell 1831 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:20,140 any of that was but then you have you 1832 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:22,570 know again our friend has made a stab at 1833 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:24,370 something but is inaccurate already 1834 01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:27,130 about what he's saying is it that I 1835 01:21:31,710 --> 01:21:29,320 don't know a lot of R&D there think of 1836 01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:31,720 that weird storm in 97 what do I know 1837 01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:33,640 that's more Peters area but what I do 1838 01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:37,180 know I did see things that look like the 1839 01:21:42,930 --> 01:21:40,270 cloud Buster right but more 1840 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:42,940 heuristic every now and then not 1841 01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:44,890 missiles I know what a missile is I was 1842 01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:46,720 trained killer by the time I got there 1843 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:48,460 it was trying to protect muscles but we 1844 01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:49,930 didn't bring the dummies in until after 1845 01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:51,580 I left and that was mimicking the cruise 1846 01:21:59,390 --> 01:21:54,910 missile we didn't have them in 1980 or 1847 01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:59,400 81 so if that helps but but now it's 1848 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:02,080 again it's kind of a misdirection it's 1849 01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:04,510 an idea that theory peter has may I'm 1850 01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,790 open I don't know what the thing was but 1851 01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:09,520 we have another series of sargent at the 1852 01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:11,440 station there that verified yes we saw 1853 01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:13,480 these things and they were moving around 1854 01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:16,510 the base coming to any further and 1855 01:22:20,190 --> 01:22:18,310 that's not an area of interest of mine 1856 01:22:22,590 --> 01:22:20,200 and I think it was just one more arrow 1857 01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:22,600 being fired last week sadly not accurate 1858 01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:25,120 again but I don't know what it was 1859 01:22:29,390 --> 01:22:27,700 thanks buddy appreciate that anyone else 1860 01:22:34,830 --> 01:22:29,400 anything you want 1861 01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:34,840 nothing yes 1862 01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:37,540 they weren't there were wheels and it 1863 01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:39,820 was asking up these things the long 1864 01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,870 poles I thought they were a 1865 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:42,400 communication thing right 1866 01:22:47,250 --> 01:22:44,290 they weren't misses they were long poles 1867 01:22:49,980 --> 01:22:47,260 that came off as OD green and they were 1868 01:22:52,230 --> 01:22:49,990 I first saw we went to try a Princeton 1869 01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:52,240 University finger and I spoke there for 1870 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:53,980 the college of autonomy which is an 1871 01:22:58,830 --> 01:22:56,170 interest of my co-authors not mine but I 1872 01:23:01,770 --> 01:22:58,840 did see there is this weird I met these 1873 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:01,780 doctors been science guides and I'm like 1874 01:23:06,420 --> 01:23:03,730 holy [\h__\h] they did show me some weird 1875 01:23:08,630 --> 01:23:06,430 stuff with that or economy stuff I got 1876 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:08,640 enough trouble but then I looked at the 1877 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:13,690 I was seeing these brochures in the 1878 01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:15,370 eighties and I'm looking and I'm like I 1879 01:23:19,770 --> 01:23:17,830 can't we had them on the banks now that 1880 01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:19,780 would sound yeah why add to you know who 1881 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:22,480 needs any more but as we proceeded I 1882 01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:23,920 said I saw things that looked like that 1883 01:23:29,730 --> 01:23:26,230 but there were more military looking and 1884 01:23:31,790 --> 01:23:29,740 that we found another two sergeants and 1885 01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:31,800 their interviews and 1886 01:23:35,780 --> 01:23:34,140 in our book so but now they weren't 1887 01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:35,790 mixels I don't know what they were and 1888 01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:37,560 it just kind of weird cuz the weather 1889 01:23:41,540 --> 01:23:39,960 thing well that for us that first is not 1890 01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:41,550 the first that this things happened to 1891 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:44,310 us of 1980 but I just were certain 1892 01:23:49,130 --> 01:23:47,010 critics would help at least some basics 1893 01:23:50,510 --> 01:23:49,140 in fact to really launch the attacks 1894 01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:50,520 because they were easily knocked down 1895 01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:52,940 but I don't know what if it wasn't so 1896 01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:56,100 it's a theory it's an idea I think we 1897 01:24:01,220 --> 01:23:58,290 were so shocked by the what happened 1898 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:01,230 there in 87 I mean if you've ever seen a 1899 01:24:05,780 --> 01:24:03,450 war against trees or a nuclear weapon 1900 01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:05,790 the law I know there's the Michaels 1901 01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:06,960 thing that the hurricane that came 1902 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:08,940 through and all that I believe there is 1903 01:24:14,690 --> 01:24:11,370 what weather modification of time what's 1904 01:24:16,250 --> 01:24:14,700 this it no did we need to add it I don't 1905 01:24:19,190 --> 01:24:16,260 know some people are interested in it 1906 01:24:21,380 --> 01:24:19,200 it's an idea I couldn't prove it at all 1907 01:24:23,780 --> 01:24:21,390 but I did see things that resemble what 1908 01:24:25,780 --> 01:24:23,790 they call cloud busters and I they work 1909 01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:25,790 this is we didn't have the dummy ship 1910 01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:28,310 thanks brother that's a good question to 1911 01:24:41,150 --> 01:24:30,750 that God Peters had be going through the 1912 01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:41,160 whole and there so you know it's kind of 1913 01:24:58,900 --> 01:24:44,280 like hippie stuff for maybe the any 1914 01:25:06,380 --> 01:25:04,250 yeah no III 100% convinced it was 1915 01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:06,390 non-human technology there for three 1916 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:09,030 days I think there was an operation in 1917 01:25:13,340 --> 01:25:11,250 place it wasn't a random thing to vector 1918 01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,350 this stuff in and study it in close come 1919 01:25:18,170 --> 01:25:15,840 close confines I think we were putting 1920 01:25:22,100 --> 01:25:18,180 the trap and to see how this phenomena 1921 01:25:24,410 --> 01:25:22,110 interacts with military people being 1922 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:24,420 observed by Special Forces units in 1923 01:25:27,380 --> 01:25:25,050 those woods 1924 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:27,390 thus the pictures I showed earlier that 1925 01:25:32,750 --> 01:25:29,489 have guilty conscience 'as the thing got 1926 01:25:35,330 --> 01:25:32,760 out of hand it was being studied filmed 1927 01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:35,340 and everything I'm describing that I saw 1928 01:25:40,130 --> 01:25:38,190 up which month I there was a whole 1929 01:25:41,930 --> 01:25:40,140 backline that we didn't see and thus 1930 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:41,940 that's the command post over at this 1931 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:44,850 campsite this is a much bigger thing and 1932 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:46,530 many of us were put in place on that 1933 01:25:53,060 --> 01:25:50,010 base now I know not by random but 1934 01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:53,070 because of prehistory this is a 1935 01:25:57,979 --> 01:25:54,750 threatened people our prehistory by the 1936 01:26:01,850 --> 01:25:57,989 way with this phenomena are a threat the 1937 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:01,860 power base who do we have but now a 1938 01:26:06,260 --> 01:26:04,650 hundred and what I saw there I have a 1939 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:06,270 history with the stuff in my life I 1940 01:26:11,660 --> 01:26:08,400 don't know where it's from I know where 1941 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:11,670 it ain't from not from Detroit but this 1942 01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:14,010 I did see things I there the word alien 1943 01:26:17,420 --> 01:26:17,040 it's alien to me I did they weren't 1944 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:17,430 human 1945 01:26:24,350 --> 01:26:22,530 how it was all convoluted with Saudia 1946 01:26:26,050 --> 01:26:24,360 mammoth all and you see we're contained 1947 01:26:29,209 --> 01:26:26,060 rats and so you can start the sweep 1948 01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:29,219 fireproof everyone this thing got out of 1949 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:31,350 hand it was to be these guys on the 1950 01:26:37,850 --> 01:26:33,810 first night were lured hey buddy lure 1951 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:37,860 out to those woods no question and this 1952 01:26:40,370 --> 01:26:39,090 thing just got bigger look at the 1953 01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:40,380 picture I took midday 1954 01:26:45,470 --> 01:26:43,500 two days later this [\h__\h] still around I 1955 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:45,480 didn't see it then I didn't know I'd be 1956 01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:46,650 in front of it later 1957 01:26:54,770 --> 01:26:50,580 and so that's my view that's my view I 1958 01:26:57,410 --> 01:26:54,780 know we're not alone I I know that I'm 1959 01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,420 not in the proof business that I'm in 1960 01:27:02,090 --> 01:27:00,000 the truth business my truth but I'm not 1961 01:27:05,660 --> 01:27:02,100 up to sell you nothing we are it's also 1962 01:27:08,930 --> 01:27:05,670 the reality that step is objective you 1963 01:27:12,170 --> 01:27:08,940 you wake up to some reality you live 1964 01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:12,180 you know I know we're not alone no quick 1965 01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:14,910 story 1975 40 years ago this month 1966 01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:20,940 driving on Niagara Falls western New 1967 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:22,500 York State New York Thruway midday 1968 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:24,930 hungry degrees Farenheit car windows 1969 01:27:28,580 --> 01:27:26,730 open my mother's drive my sister's in 1970 01:27:30,530 --> 01:27:28,590 the back she wouldn't cared if we round 1971 01:27:32,689 --> 01:27:30,540 this thing over or a UFO race she just 1972 01:27:36,740 --> 01:27:32,699 doesn't can to know about it it doesn't 1973 01:27:40,189 --> 01:27:36,750 have Gucci on issue and we're driving 1974 01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,199 and we were I was 14 15 15 I we're 1975 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:42,000 driving and there's a field I'll just 1976 01:27:46,459 --> 01:27:43,530 tell you how weird this [\h__\h] world is 1977 01:27:48,590 --> 01:27:46,469 New York State upstate I'm very rural 1978 01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:48,600 and you're heading through light they 1979 01:27:53,209 --> 01:27:51,030 kindly and there's a tree a lot of 1980 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:53,219 traffic and here's that tree just real 1981 01:27:56,630 --> 01:27:54,780 quick but big tree line 1982 01:27:58,459 --> 01:27:56,640 and as we're driving right now 50 I 1983 01:28:01,610 --> 01:27:58,469 think the speed limits had dropped at 50 1984 01:28:04,610 --> 01:28:01,620 men or 55 this thing breaks out of the 1985 01:28:09,530 --> 01:28:04,620 trees it's running and it's running 1986 01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:09,540 about 30 miles an hour it's about 50 60 1987 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:12,630 or 50 yards off the highway the highways 1988 01:28:17,810 --> 01:28:15,570 the level with this field Marsh big red 1989 01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:17,820 barn out that way and I'm like this 1990 01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,420 and it's as a stick the deer in front of 1991 01:28:27,709 --> 01:28:24,000 it the things about nine feet tall 1992 01:28:31,670 --> 01:28:27,719 it's a reddish fur all over it shoulders 1993 01:28:35,780 --> 01:28:31,680 mass would be like here its head was no 1994 01:28:38,420 --> 01:28:35,790 neck it was massive upright thing 1995 01:28:41,150 --> 01:28:38,430 running we have no Apes of North America 1996 01:28:44,410 --> 01:28:41,160 this wasn't an ape and it ran in a way 1997 01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:44,420 that it seemed like it wasn't even 1998 01:28:52,630 --> 01:28:50,350 that's running boom 1999 01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:52,640 takes the back legs right out of this 2000 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:54,560 big buck we got big bucks there 2001 01:28:59,320 --> 01:28:56,090 broke its legs right there it's not 2002 01:29:02,460 --> 01:28:59,330 happening through the fitnah beer flew 2003 01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:02,470 into the stream and it jumped in and 2004 01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:06,080 we're now passing state police car right 2005 01:29:10,270 --> 01:29:07,670 in front of us were them to pull over 2006 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:10,280 and the things in the water and they're 2007 01:29:14,290 --> 01:29:11,930 just looking at it look this way of the 2008 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:14,300 highway but there's no neck the movement 2009 01:29:18,940 --> 01:29:16,250 I did like that it did with its upper 2010 01:29:22,750 --> 01:29:18,950 body it was wrong in every right way and 2011 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:22,760 its face isn't human it was more human 2012 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:25,730 than a gorilla and it was about 9 to 10 2013 01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:29,090 feet tall and it was massive so I can 2014 01:29:31,390 --> 01:29:30,800 say there I looked at my mother went 2015 01:29:34,780 --> 01:29:31,400 both ways 2016 01:29:36,460 --> 01:29:34,790 Bigfoot instantly little I know back 2017 01:29:38,590 --> 01:29:36,470 then I used to think all that stuff that 2018 01:29:40,570 --> 01:29:38,600 Robert Patterson film is 100% authentic 2019 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:40,580 there's no suits they can do with that 2020 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:43,130 bad in 67 they still can't do it now 2021 01:29:47,860 --> 01:29:45,890 that is a real thing that lives in our 2022 01:29:49,330 --> 01:29:47,870 woods and I would if you're interested 2023 01:29:52,750 --> 01:29:49,340 in that subject I would suggest you read 2024 01:29:54,460 --> 01:29:52,760 the books for missing 411 amazing and 2025 01:29:56,980 --> 01:29:54,470 what the cover-up that's going on in our 2026 01:29:59,530 --> 01:29:56,990 national parks and how special forces 2027 01:30:01,330 --> 01:29:59,540 respond armed they don't interact with 2028 01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:01,340 no one they know what's going on but 2029 01:30:06,730 --> 01:30:03,790 these things have a little more 2030 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:06,740 paranormal than they are this and I do 2031 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:08,810 believe they have taken people I don't 2032 01:30:13,060 --> 01:30:10,370 believe they're all they're trying to go 2033 01:30:14,980 --> 01:30:13,070 back years they tried something but 2034 01:30:17,500 --> 01:30:14,990 they're not all from here I just might 2035 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:17,510 believe seen it now might have to prove 2036 01:30:22,570 --> 01:30:19,730 it no I know they're in the woods and I 2037 01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:22,580 ain't camping with you any other 2038 01:30:31,230 --> 01:30:25,120 question and I know it I'm not officer 2039 01:30:36,970 --> 01:30:33,880 absolutely my friend I do they asked if 2040 01:30:38,980 --> 01:30:36,980 the do I think these I with my life 2041 01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:38,990 experience I absolutely my friend 2042 01:30:43,420 --> 01:30:41,120 believe they have permanent bases on 2043 01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:43,430 this earth they've had it remember I 2044 01:30:48,370 --> 01:30:45,950 believe after spending time with this 2045 01:30:51,010 --> 01:30:48,380 guy mr. Russ is put this fine conference 2046 01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:51,020 on I have to tell you I see I've seen a 2047 01:30:54,610 --> 01:30:52,610 lot over the years in real life in 2048 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:54,620 another way are you ready folks from 2049 01:30:58,330 --> 01:30:56,810 here finally I gotta tell you something 2050 01:30:59,880 --> 01:30:58,340 here this gentleman lives here and he's 2051 01:31:03,000 --> 01:30:59,890 put this conference on Russ 2052 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:03,010 here and I was showing some video the 2053 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:04,930 last few days and he talked yelling say 2054 01:31:09,090 --> 01:31:06,610 I got video and there's some great stuff 2055 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:09,100 out there I've seen what he's filled and 2056 01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:10,810 I think you're gonna see it too 2057 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:13,030 I asked ya sir I'll tell you what I've 2058 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:16,330 seen something I've got a weak [\h__\h] but 2059 01:31:21,330 --> 01:31:18,730 it's in your backyard grand I live on 2060 01:31:23,550 --> 01:31:21,340 the other side of the country good luck 2061 01:31:26,010 --> 01:31:23,560 with this one amazing 2062 01:31:29,220 --> 01:31:26,020 so absolutely a permanent presence we 2063 01:31:31,770 --> 01:31:29,230 see in this land talk talked about the 2064 01:31:35,460 --> 01:31:31,780 ancient history of all this and this is 2065 01:31:38,130 --> 01:31:35,470 nothing new and we are just pawns the 2066 01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:38,140 powerbase knows that's all real but they 2067 01:31:43,470 --> 01:31:40,240 got to control us but who's controlling 2068 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:43,480 them babe these things out where they 2069 01:31:46,770 --> 01:31:45,010 got a man on the White House lawn they 2070 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:46,780 don't recognize the seat of power they 2071 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,450 don't need to the magic it's so 2072 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:51,040 different and there's so many different 2073 01:31:56,370 --> 01:31:54,610 kinds that's my view and my experience 2074 01:31:58,110 --> 01:31:56,380 not just rentals I didn't eat that I've 2075 01:31:58,830 --> 01:31:58,120 had a lifetime I've had more knurled out 2076 01:32:00,660 --> 01:31:58,840 I guess 2077 01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:00,670 well you had more than one sandy bland 2078 01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:04,510 will work sorry so keep an eye on you 2079 01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:07,150 like you said if you're a smoker that's 2080 01:32:11,490 --> 01:32:08,440 even better because you know one lets 2081 01:32:13,740 --> 01:32:11,500 you inside no more time and I've seen 2082 01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:13,750 more [\h__\h] by smell good regular 2083 01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:14,560 cigarette 2084 01:32:19,530 --> 01:32:17,080 no outside like you're smiling yeah I 2085 01:32:21,930 --> 01:32:19,540 know you and I but every you just take a 2086 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:21,940 look and if this country is rich in this 2087 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:24,250 stuff it's the world is it everywhere 2088 01:32:28,170 --> 01:32:26,290 it's every day and the history has been 2089 01:32:30,980 --> 01:32:28,180 right in front of us paintings and the 2090 01:32:35,670 --> 01:32:30,990 cave things it's right there going hello 2091 01:32:41,310 --> 01:32:35,680 who's your daddy anyone else they are 2092 01:32:43,950 --> 01:32:41,320 the gods that I don't know it but 2093 01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:43,960 Rusty's gone again but if he didn't say 2094 01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:50,560 he could answer that I don't know you 2095 01:32:54,090 --> 01:32:52,390 got a beautiful place here but I think 2096 01:32:55,470 --> 01:32:54,100 there's one right out in your Bay here 2097 01:32:59,370 --> 01:32:55,480 and you'll see something that might make 2098 01:33:04,590 --> 01:32:59,380 you think so I was just oh like here's a 2099 01:33:07,980 --> 01:33:04,600 I'm not gonna say this it's just worth 2100 01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:07,990 it do we take a break now today I want